08-07-2004 04:49									#181
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I agree with the moves you layed out in fallowtimes2a.jpg (nice work by the way). We both agree on : former to solar now and Fallow Times to build former now. So at least we have that much out of the way.

BTW, you're right that I meant to forest to the N and not NW. Note that either base could then use that forest, as needed

	08-07-2004 11:38									#182
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I'm heading off to take a big chill. I should be around by 12:00 Apolyton time, but if the turn comes and you want to play it, go ahead Net, or Illuminatus (yeah!). I've lost my marbles today.

-S

	08-07-2004 12:31									#183
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Ok, I'm really heading off now. But I checked the turn thread and it just went to Sparta an hour ago. This means it's a good idea if we nail down our turn pronto.
Estimated time of Spartan turn-post: 11:00
Our goal for posting: 19:00 poly time.

Someone want to recap and make some decisions about the issues still at hand? It would do us proud to make another post on average or better-than-average time. A few more of those and I think we'll have the turn-play respect of the other teams during this troubling time (damn E_N).

-Smack

	08-07-2004 12:36									#184
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Recap the decisions made, I will play the turn if neccesary.

	08-07-2004 13:58									#185
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Former: Start solar
Independent Scout: No decision. Move NE makes sense.
New scout: Move south from Fallow time.

Start Former in Fallow Time.

Keep in mind, only Net Warrior and I have been around (with a pop in from Hydro) for the last few days. We made a good debate team and turn team. We don't agree on very much, which is excellent, but leaves all the above decisions a bit up in the air. I pre-agree to whatever is implemented on this one. I have to go.

-Smack

	08-07-2004 14:39									#186
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Does anyone else advocate moving scout to the tile west of our first scout? It doesn't matter which one, but we need to scout west, and we need to troll fungus. Perhaps moving both scouts into fungus squares (one south, one west).

	08-07-2004 18:46									#187
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Illuminatus, please have a look at "fallowtimes2a.jpg" posted by smacksim on the previous page. It shows the path he and I agreed upon for our scouts. The FTSP was to move S thru the fungus to pop the pod 3 tiles away. The ISP was to move N into the fungus but I don't object to W into the fungus instead.

	08-07-2004 21:04									#188
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Okay.

	08-07-2004 23:55									#189
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I'm alive. So we are agreed then? Excellent. I'll keep an eye out for the turn, which seems to be sitting with Sparta.

-Smack

	09-07-2004 03:13									#190
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I believe we have agreement on the following 6 items:

1. The FTSP is to move S thru the fungus to pop the pod in 3.
2. The ISP is to move either N or W into the fungus.
3. The former is to start on a solar collector.
4. Fallow Time is to begin building a former.
5. The worker at Fallow Times should work the rolling rainy tile.
6. Maintain energy allocation at optimal for research.

There are differing opinions on what to build at Gaia’s Landing but since we have less than 10 minerals accumulated, it need not be resolved now.

	09-07-2004 03:25									#191
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Edit: I'm off again till 13:00 or so. Play the turn if it comes. It'll surprise 'em. I've been checking it hourly just for the shock value.

I will be around till 4:00 or so Apolyton time, tomorrow, to play the turn. I will also do an update on predicting the next turns at that time. Things slowed down for the other teams over this last turn, understandably.



-Smack

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	09-07-2004 21:10									#192
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I'm here. I'm heading to play the turn. -S

Will post pics and presend save in a bit. The server is really sluggish.

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	09-07-2004 21:36									#193
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Plan carried through. We discovered a river, no MW yet.

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	09-07-2004 21:44									#194
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Well, things are looking up! I guess there's nothing left to do other than hit turn complete and send off our move in record time.
I'll start a thread for 2106 in a while

As an aside, a new thread per turn will also sweep away any obsolete threads. Neatness does counts, right?

Last edited by Net Warrior on 09-07-2004 at 21:49

	09-07-2004 21:59									#195
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Let's keep links between the turn threads too. Perhaps an index will shortly be in order.

-S

	09-07-2004 23:06									#196
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If calculations are correct, the FTSP will hit the second pod on 2107, the year we make our first breakthrough. That's good timing. As no other pods are in range, we are fairly 'safe' unless we discover a worm. In the case of a worm either north or south I reccomend waiting 1 more turn before popping another pod.

Outline of 2106:

1. IndSP North or NE or NW to troll the river
   
2. FTSP south towards pod
   
3. No changes in production or SE or Sliders
   
4. GL Former continues solar panel
   
5. Workers are both on 2-1-0s
   

	09-07-2004 23:19									#197
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quote: Originally posted by smacksim If calculations are correct, the FTSP will hit the second pod on 2107, the year we make our first breakthrough. That's good timing. As no other pods are in range, we are fairly 'safe' unless we discover a worm. In the case of a worm either north or south I reccomend waiting 1 more turn before popping another pod. Outline of 2106: IndSP North or NE or NW to troll the river FTSP south towards pod No changes in production or SE or Sliders GL Former continues solar panel Workers are both on 2-1-0s We're ready I think. Just have to wait another 40 hours or so. I'm updating the turn-play prediction schedule now. -S

	10-07-2004 02:05									#198
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Gaia’s Landing produces 2 minerals per turn and will have 10 minerals on 2109. A solar collector on 2110 may double GL’s lab output to 4 per turn. GL will have 16 minerals when it grows to size 2 on 2112. Unless the 2107 pod pop resulted in an improved tile, lab output will not increase despite the new worker and mineral production will increase to only 3 per turn.

CP’s cost 30 minerals and formers cost 20 minerals.

Fallow Times accumulates 2 minerals per turn and will have 11 minerals on 2110. It will grow to size 2 on 2115 and will have 20 minerals accumulated. Without intervention, the best available tile for the new worker will be a 2-1-0.

With the river north of Fallow Times it seems obvious that FT must build a CP ASAP.

Our present tech cost is 14. The Spartans now have Centauri Ecology and are in the tech lead. On 2107 we find out our new cost of research and the pod pop results. We must await developments.

We are significantly behind every faction on the power graph save one, The PK’s

	10-07-2004 03:06									#199
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How do you know the Spartans have CentEco? I must get on my spyglasses.....

It's good to be last in power for a little while. Keeps the flies away.

	10-07-2004 03:10									#200
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ut oh, I hope it's not cheating. I opened the comm link and clicked on "offer all tech". We didn't offer Cent Eco which meant they already had it.

	10-07-2004 03:35									#201
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I would guess that's out of bounds. Good to bring it up. I'll go peruse the rules.

	10-07-2004 03:50									#202
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I see nothing against it in the rules or rules discussion

	10-07-2004 04:21									#203
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pshew

	10-07-2004 21:13									#204
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quote: Originally posted by Net Warrior ut oh, I hope it's not cheating. I opened the comm link and clicked on "offer all tech". We didn't offer Cent Eco which meant they already had it.

Drogue, is this way of getting information allowed?

	11-07-2004 21:31									#205
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Houston, we've got a problem!

I think we have no choice but to move our former into Gaia's Landing where it will defend as well as a scout patrol against that Spore Launcher. We should still move the FTSP S and if we don't find a MW, move it E into Gaia's landing next turn. I like moving the ISP N and trolling the Ebb & Flow River with it next turn, but moving it NE or NW now is ok with me too. Finally, change production in FT to a CP. I'd also like to change production in GL to either a scout ot former but I'll defer to others on it.

Last edited by Net Warrior on 11-07-2004 at 21:49

	11-07-2004 23:13									#206
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Played as requested and posted (did not change the build queues...didn't need to)

-S

	11-07-2004 23:19									#207
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Defending GL with a former until help arrives.

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	12-07-2004 05:17									#208
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Proposal:

Move scout patrol into Gaia's Landing in preparation for attacking the spore launcher there as one of the last actions in 2108 (keeping alive the possibility of capturing a mind worm as long as possible). Move the former there into a rainy-rolling tile in preparation for constructing a solar panel there.

Use northern scout patrol to move along river three tiles, attacking (and presumably converting) any native life found on the way regardless of hastiness.

No opinion on production in the cities until I review minerals accumulated, minerals/turn, and possibilities.

When Info Nets is discovered, pick Planetary Nets next if there's a choice (assuming this doesn't blow up beelines).

	12-07-2004 05:19									#209
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concur on all counts. When do you get 'back' Chaos?

	12-07-2004 05:21									#210
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A couple of hours ago