28-09-2004 04:16									#61
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Nope, just Call to Conquest mod.

Played a couple of turns guys, getting there slowly. Should be able to post in 24 hours.
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	28-09-2004 04:43									#62
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quote: Originally posted by EPW Other nations can not start wars with the host nation.

I have just read the description of the wonder, it closes all the embassies and add 50 points of regard in favour of the host nation towards every AI civilization. There is nothing about the fact a war can not be started with the host nation.

	28-09-2004 04:49									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin I have just read the description of the wonder, it closes all the embassies and add 50 points of regard in favour of the host nation towards every AI civilization. There is nothing about the fact a war can not be started with the host nation.

	28-09-2004 05:17									#64
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Its never worked like that when ive seen it in CtP1 or 2. Perhaps it means because of the regard increase it helps prevent enemies starting war. But i dont think theres anything concrete to stop them, theres nothing in wonders.txt to indicate there is either.

	28-09-2004 05:22									#65
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I have never been able to start a war with a nation with the Forbidden city.....

	28-09-2004 05:31									#66
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Ive just tried it in cheat mode in CtP1 and 2 and i could start a war with the Forbidden City holding nation both times so i dont know what to believe. I definitely never had a message or any other indication that i cant start a war, but maybe the situation where the AI has it and i want to start a war has never cropped up in all this time.

	28-09-2004 05:41									#67
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I just tested it with CTC and your right forbidden city didn't stop the other nation from attacking, but I'm sure there have been times I was not able to war with nations with the Forbidden city.

	28-09-2004 06:16									#68
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well, even w/o war, it'll be a pain removing the Egyptians from our land, unlike w/ the canadians and the other two we peaced out on, there wasnt an original border patrol against Egypt
also, we are rather far away from their cities, so getting them the surrender is mostly impossible now

also, i hope now w/ forbidden city, we can futher the peace w/ Korea, as they are way too far to attack

unless Shadow changed it, we should get theology next, and i think we should switch to theological empire

	28-09-2004 14:31									#69
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The Forbidden City description I read yesterday comes from the CtP2 player's guide, there is nothing about war in this one. I was naive enough to believe the description would be the same in the Great Library, I was wrong.

	29-09-2004 04:44									#70
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375 Brokers Cease Fire with Egyptians and Canadians, Peace Treaty with Australians and Phoenecians.

350 Plague Strikes. Enemy troops appear to be leaving our territory.

325 Minor skirmishes with Canadians, cease fire is broken.

300 Reasonable build up of Egyptian troops around our borders.

275 11 stack near Canadian border kills 4 horsey archers.

250 Egyptian troop build up steady within our borders. 12 Stack kills 3 Canadian archers within their borders, clearing the way to Ottawa and beyond!

240 12 Stack destroys 5 mounted arches close to Ottawa. We have lost no units as yet. 2 more 12 stacks following the first. Egyptians agree to withdraw, providing we give them 300 gold. Accepted.

230 Our 3 12 stacks all turn north for Edmonton, slaughtering a single archer as they change course. Currently have another 6 stack nearing the Canadian border near Edmonton also.

210 Canadian 4 stack kills one of our border guards. Our early catapaults in HuangDi take pot shots at small troop concentrations outside its walls. 12 stacks are nearly on Edmonton…

190 The siege of Edmonton begins!

180 Hoplite on his last legs sent into Edmonton. Information gathered reveals 9 remaining units in the city. Our early catapaults are picking them off…

160 EDMONTON IS OURS!!! Cursed Canadians take that! Our citizens rejoice as we pillage, and plunder and... well the women are too hairy so we leave them alone...
Drama is now being researched. New government options are available, but none chosen as yet. Shadow steps down from power…

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	29-09-2004 05:01									#71
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Nice one Shadow.

As for government change, I would be in favour of going Classical Democracy now mayeb youll need to build some happiness buildings for that and then Theocratic Empire (or better if another comes) when we get more than 15 cities.

	29-09-2004 05:07									#72
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what is keeping the canadians from surrender?
is it cities or units?
i doubt they have a third of our unit numbers... we used defaults rights?

	29-09-2004 05:16									#73
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Going by the military graph it looks like they have more than 1/3 the number of troops we have. I also think they have more than enough cities.

	29-09-2004 08:37									#74
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but when i took Montreal, there was a message saying they were close to surrender

	29-09-2004 09:11									#75
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Well I guess they still have either enough military units or cities, whatever the message said.

	29-09-2004 10:09									#76
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When they get close to surrendering, it should tell you whether you need to attack their cities or their armies.

Tamerlin,

No-one else has mentioned weird messages, so I think it might be that you've got a wrong strings file somewhere.

	29-09-2004 14:41									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Peter Triggs Tamerlin, No-one else has mentioned weird messages, so I think it might be that you've got a wrong strings file somewhere.

Could it be because I have a French version of the game (before someone asks, yes I have copied all the CtC files from the English folder to the French folder)?

As I told it before, the problem is that the game is rather difficult to play without all those messages.

	29-09-2004 20:49									#78
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	30-09-2004 00:09									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin Could it be because I have a French version of the game (before someone asks, yes I have copied all the CtC files from the English folder to the French folder)?

There might be a way round the problem. Your CTC_Strings.txt should look something like this (this is the AOM one):

quote: #import "Strings.txt" # Strings: This file import "add_str.txt" # Addon: String additions should temporarily reside here. Strings should be moved from here to where they belong. This file should be gone by the time we CR. import "AOM_civ_str.txt" # Civ City Ruler Names import "dip_str.txt" # Diplomacy: import "err_str.txt" # Error: None of these will be localized so it would be nice to have them out on their own import "exp_str.txt" # Explanation: Reasons for City (Un)Happiness and Civ Points import "AOM_gl_str.txt" # Great Library: Terms and Descriptions import "AOM_info_str.txt" # Info Message: Includes Drop Down & Instant Action Messages. Trade could go here import "junk_str.txt" # Junk: Trash can for obsolete strings that need to be there for the executable. Programmers should delete things from junk_str.txt import "ldl_str.txt" # LDL strings: Migration from LDL import "tut_str.txt" # Tutorial: #SAM022299 added for cheat tools import "cht_str.txt" # Cheat Tools #JBR08031999 added scen_str.txt import "scen_str.txt" #REM101999 for new diplomacy system import "AOM_dip2_str.txt" #BMH040800 added for tooltips and status bar text import "tips_str.txt" import "feat_str.txt" import "tut2_str.txt" import "cut_str.txt" import "AOM_text.txt" import "AOM_NewDiplomod_str.txt"

If you were to get copies of all the english text files which CTC doesn't normally override (For AOM this is add_str.txt, dip_str.txt, etc.), give them CTC prefixes, put them in your ...\french\gamedata directory and edit CTC_Strings.txt to point to them then you should have exactly the same strings database as all the other players, and that might stop the problem. Of course, you'll have to cope with all the ingame messages being in english for CTC...

(A simpler way to achieve the same thing would be to overwrite your french texts with theenglish ones, but obviously there are bigger disadvantages there...)

	30-09-2004 01:12									#80
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Thanks for the answer J Bytheway but I don't have the original English files.

	30-09-2004 01:24									#81
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There is perhaps another solution, my CtP2 CD-ROM does not allow me to install CtP2 in another language because the installation language is defined in a file called anet.inf on the CD-ROM. Perhaps is it possible to copy all the files on the CD-ROM on a Hard Drive and then to change the ID# (4 in this case) of the language used during the installation process. If a native English speaker could give me the number of the language used in his anet.inf I could try to install CtP2 in English.

IMO there isn't any chance that it works but it is worth a try.

Here is the content of the anet.inf file :

[ActiveNet]
Cmdline=
Name=Call to Power 2
Run=ctp2.exe
SessionType=1503
Version=1102.9
Language=4
Platform=1
ShellOpts=

[Version Info]
Branch=0.0
Version=1.0
QA=2196

[Product Info]
ProductID=ctp2w98
ProductName=Call to Power 2
WebReg=http://cgi.activision.com/cgi/webreg/webreg
RegNum=

	30-09-2004 05:42									#82
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Language=1 on my english one

who will post screens for E?

i'll remember to post a screen on my next turn

	30-09-2004 05:52									#83
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The Empire, as of 150 B.C:

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	30-09-2004 06:11									#84
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Ah yes... just as I remember it.

We certainly do have quite a massive army! Large troop formations all over!

	30-09-2004 10:45									#85
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We could do a bit more expanding(by non-military means), there are at least two good potato spots. The one South of Pedi and the one Northeast of Thembu. Not sure if we really need to but if we ever have the production to spare we might as well.

South of Ngwak would be good too, so we could take advantage of those mountains.

	30-09-2004 11:48									#86
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I agree. I was sending that stray Settler down south, aiming to squeeze him between the Canadian and Egyptian borders and settle quite a ways south.

I think he was in a southern city of ours when I ended my last turn.

	30-09-2004 11:58									#87
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quote: Originally posted by HuangShang Language=1 on my english one

Thanks HuangShang.

[EDIT] It does not work, the English files seem not to be on the French CD-ROM. [/EDIT]

Could someone zip me the English files of the original game?

	01-10-2004 06:20									#88
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city expansion may not help much w/ the Egpytians being EVERYWHERE

Tamerlin, i cant help cus i have no idea what to include, but i bet many others do

	01-10-2004 06:27									#89
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With regards to expanding by ourself, we're close to the city limit now so I would say lets keep expanding by force, so we get cities ready built and grown already for us.

	01-10-2004 06:43									#90
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If we can get the Canadians to capitulate and meld into our civ, that should bump us up the power graph quite significantly.

I'd say at that point the other would have a tough time toppling us. Having said that, I have noticed in this particular mod they do like to team up...