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mart7x5 is offline mart7x5
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Sep 2002
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Ok, so Lal offered preaccepted Pact to Zakharov, and Zak accepted, now Lal has a probe team.
It works:
- question - move or make probe team action.
I was offered infiltration. Now I wonder would it work the other way - like Zakh offers pre-accepted Pact to Lal. Could Lal still infiltrate? Must be checked.

passwords:
Lal: p
Zak: u

Attachment: lal_probe_test_2102.zip
This has been downloaded 1 time(s).

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2 quick interfactional remarks:

First, now we can offer EnvEcon to the Gaians... there does seem to be a one turn delay thus.
Two, the Gaians are pacted with the Morgans now

Militarily: I see a Spartan impact cruiser just north of Yoda Soda.
I wonder if a military invasion is finding place there...

Morgans indeed look in pretty low shape. Seems they've put all their energy in erecting bases and covering them with probe defenders... They look more Angel-like then we do!

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I don't like the sound of a possible invasion on us...

How many turns prior to our being well defended?

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Diplomacy. Just short remarks here, I have to leave now, maybe be back shortly like in 2 hours, but not for long.

Gaians - inquire of the Hive status. Ask if they realize, the Spartan transport with probe onboard - they should notice this in hive infiltration anyway... Pact? Start discussions?

Morganities - Promptly inform of obstructing their communication lines on their waters due to our students on route to University of Planet for their practical training.... or smth like that

Spartans - be open. Tell them we finely tuned our economy and we are a little above 2 turns for Int Int to be researched right now (only when my proposal of getting into 30%psych gets aproved), yet we still expect to get Int Int in 2164 when we add several lab points to the research speed. Confirm, that in 2164 they will receive Int Int pre-accepted.

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Should't we be able to see in the datalinks what the Morgans now about the Spartans and such? We have the Morgan map and now all Sparta's base locations, but when I check the Morgan intelligence files in the diplo info I see zip.

Also, Gaians don't seem to have info on the Hive.

Is this perhaps we haven't physically met both of those factions so don't have their logo in the list?

But I can see the Gaian -and Spartan technologies!

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Did the diplomatic messages (especially the Morgan one) got composed and sended?

If not, please let us know.

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I haven't done any yet. Geo, you may proceed, as I will be away for around 10 hours from now.

Yeah, we better inform Morganities ASAP, that might ease their frustration.......

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'kay, I do so ASAP as well, for Jtsiyoda already downloaded the turn...

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I've sent this:

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Boardmembers of the Corporation,

We feel an apology is in order as one of our transports seems to be obstructing one of your transport vessels on it's present course.

We hope this will not profoundly block the arrival time on it's port of origin.

Since our transport is in your territorial waters, we feel as well an explanation of it's presence there is in order.

It is so that only last turn (2161) we got confirmation on who occupied the land it was sailing to at first due to our world map exchange. We promptly decided to change it's course and let it head to the University of Planet's territory in order to let our junior students onboard have a field practice in that area of Planet.

Again, our apologies for any inconvenience

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Message to the Spartans sent. The Gaians will have to wait a bit.

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We should also explain to Morganities, that we did not accept Pact this turn. I just thought about this issue.

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No worries there. I received a response already from them, and they are still asking party regarding pact.

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Be advised that there is a Spartan Missile Cruiser operating in the waters north of you. We do not know how far north of you it is. The last time we saw it it was [(6)-2-6, Commando, 30% damaged]. With the MCC it might still be able to move 8 squares. Note, the Spartans are running Funde and with the MCC and their morale bonus, all the ships they made since they got the MCC are at least commando morale. With the Command Nexus, funde, Spartan morale bonus, and monoliths, all thier land units appear to be Elite.

Please let me know if circumstances have changed allowing you to enter into a Pact. There is a substantial amount of infomation that we can provide to you if we were in a Pact. In particular, we may be able to provide you both detailed information about Spartan dispositions that may aid your defense, as well as detailed infomation that may aid you in your borrowing activities at the University libraries (some of the libraries have been know to have Uni and Spartan probes studying in the bookstacks or nearby).

Mead

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Remember, any Spartan ship you see will probably be at least Commando with a 2+ MCC movement bonus. Any Spartan land unit you see will be at least Commando and probably Elite with the 1+ movement bonus.

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Ugh... not good sounding at all.

Still not sure on Pact, however. Do the Spartans have an offer on the table as well?

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True

It is not good either way. Just which is the worst at the moment.

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I have an idea. How about direct inquiry of Spartan oppinion on the current situation on the planet? I will prepare a proposed information to them. We do not have to be to informative in the question, but I would maybe restate some obvious info on the planet. Then we might give them a hint, that we gonna be neutral here, I guess they may be really afraid of us going to Pact with Morganities and Gaians. I would later though try to convince them (Spartans) that we might go for Pact with Gaians in the near future, and this would be for mainly economic reasons - not to threaten Sparta.

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Originally posted by GeoModder
2 quick interfactional remarks:

First, now we can offer EnvEcon to the Gaians... there does seem to be a one turn delay thus.
Two, the Gaians are pacted with the Morgans now

Militarily: I see a Spartan impact cruiser just north of Yoda Soda.
I wonder if a military invasion is finding place there...

Morgans indeed look in pretty low shape. Seems they've put all their energy in erecting bases and covering them with probe defenders... They look more Angel-like then we do!


Without a doubt the Morgans are in bad shape in terms of defence, but let us not commit to anything until next turn and we see if we get any weapon techs. SFF is also handy for Fungicide formers.

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... we see if we get any weapon techs. SFF is also handy for Fungicide formers.

Yes, next turn may be busy for Design Workshop people. No holidays.
I can see the following new project, if we got I think we might get.

T-Garrison, 1-3t-1
T-Plasma Defender, 1-3t-2
Fungi-Former, fungus removal doubled
Missile squad, 6-1-1
Missile Rover, 6-1-2
Missile Artilery, (6)-1-1 - ??? - need to reconfirm, all 3 of them have it.

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And just in time for our first Command Center then.

And yes, getting some kind of response/opinion from the Spartans now may be a good idea.

I don't think our transport is in danger this year, but we might be wary when we try to cross the sea. I think Hercs' idea of keeping it south and deliver our probe to that river leading to the inland University base is best at this stage.

Still... in public Spartans have hinted to Morgans for signing a peace treaty, but appearantly Morgans don't feel like that (again, in public).

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That worries me. Spartans wish peace for what purpose?

- to recuperate from their last attack. They also lost all commerce, atrocity.
- just being nice.......
- to hit other faction they see a threat to them in the future (Gaians or Angels)

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While the Spartans are militaristic, they are also bound by a code of honour.

We owe them a tech and we also have that promise about them not building Ascetic Virtues. We are safe for at least two years.

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And again the Corporate diplomacy is pressing...

quote:

Geo

We are again sending you a Pact preapproved.

If you accept the pact we will be able to share with you info on Spartan deployments that I strongly suspect will affect your current operations within one or two turns.

Although I don't think you'll like what you'll see, the sooner you see sooner you can act.

Mead

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Ok, I will contact Spartans, as I wrote earlier.

Meanwhile I think any hostile "arrangement" towards us might be only in case we do not forward IntInt. But I might be wrong.

Let us press for command centers and military. Just in case.

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Just PM'd this to Chaos Theory, Illu, and Ouro.

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Members of the Gaian Council,

First, let me open this message by warning you that we have discovered a Spartan transport on the eastern shore of the Hive territory within radius of the base there. We could spot a probe team in it. We believe that this ship is heading to your territory.
This warning in case your intelligence missed it.

Secondly, regarding the Gaian proposal for a Pact with the Data Angels. Our DataJacks are mostly in favour of such a bound between our factions, but before we can commit ourselfes we need to now some more.

Due to the fact that we try to maintain our neutrality in the present conflict(s) on Planet, we would like to hear your view regarding the war between the Corporate and the Junta. Do you plan to affiliate yourself with either faction? Would the Council expect from us to choose sides if we pact with you?

There are probably more questions to come, but this is a start.

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I know we know now that Morgans and Gaians are pacted now, but we're not supposed to know that yet.

't might be wise to place all available probe teams (not the cops) in hidden places ready to mindprobe Spartan solo units in case of an invasion.

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Actually this came from Chaos Theory earlier today (Gaian)
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In case you have not already been told, we have agreed to a pact with the Morganites.

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And thinking more on Spartan situation. They are refused any commerce by the game engine. Regardless of the fact what was the destroying of PTS, we have to admitt, that it kinda moved away the threat of Morgan Corporation taking over the world.

For this reason, since Spartans are still our Treaty of friendship allied faction, we might help them economically. This might also delay their attack in case they plan it. So far we had very good relations with them, so till they attack us, we may play nice. After all, what Morganities tell us might be a game trying win our support for the Corporation only, and having no truth in reality.

What do you think of possible economic kinda help for Spartans. Whatever, small or medium, any form we can afford.

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Anyway I will prepare a message to Spartans in a few hours.

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I like the idea of offering them some kind of economic support too.

But military preps are needed regardless thanks to Yang.

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Don't you think we might need the cash ourself?

Or else, we could buy one or two of their elite gatling rovers of course if they have too many.

Problem with the Hive solved for sure, and might be cheaper then probing them from the Hive.

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Also very true.

 
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