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Say... Do I smell pork chops?
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Paddy the Scot
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Hordeland
Mar 2001
time: 14:22
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Lord Krill,
It is with Great saddness that now we are having such correspondence, when we could have had such before hostilities broke out.
I have forwarded this to the Blood Cell and have opened a discussion with the Horde.
Be well
Paddy
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Paddy,
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yes it was within your borders, for only that turn you settled next to two of our warriors, one of which was fortified on that mountain with iron in it. if you had waited a turn, we may have still had peace... but you demanded we move, threatened us, then you settled and said we were in your lands... thus we took that as a declaration of war... and thus the hands of our warriors reached out and dismissed your spearmsn and destroyed your new city a  very very sad day indeed |
No, trust me we did not want to anger you, and we did not mean to precipitate a war either, but we needed to start settling our cities, as we were already far behind in land area and number of cities. In that PM I sent on wednesday, I gave you positions from which you could still look into our territory, and into Babylons territory, and over look a fair portinn of unsettled lands beside...We would not have said anything if you started to moved to those positions.
Even if you moved the warrior that was on the hill (Heavy Axes?) onto the iron, I would have trusted you if you had moved the other warrior off the iron, towards the positions I had sent. Unfortunatly you have forced our hand now.
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I might as well say this now, so here goes. I think you may be offended, but please take it with good humour.
There is still a chance for peace: We would want our workers back, and alot of tech points (say, twenty tech points). However the problems with this are that if you disbanded the workers, you would have to send us 6 of your workers, and I know that you would never agree to that.
If you took this offer we could easily put our past behind us, and become allies again. I know it is a long shot, maybe even impossible as you are outnumbered in your team, but I have hope...
Krill
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PLATO
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Of the occupied South
Dec 2002
time: 23:22
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Response of the Great Council to Krill:
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Lord Krill,
As The Ambassador to The Ankh-Morpork nation, The Great and Glorious Khan has copied me on your most recent communication. We enjoyed reading it as we reviewed the communications from our field commanders. Perhaps there will be a jester’s position open for you in The Khan’s court at the conclusion of your nation’s destruction.
Your offer is hereby officially rejected by The Khan and The Great Council of the Horde.
Again your backward nation has demonstrated its arrogance by subverting normal diplomatic channels. The Khan may, at his pleasure, respond to such items, but most on the Council agree that it is a further insult to his appointed and accepted Ambassador. It is these type of insults…not responding to co-operation offers, accusing us of aggression while we are fulfilling our agreements, attempting to order our troop movements, and even now trying to subvert normal diplomatic channels…that have caused the Great Council of the Horde to take action.
However, on the small chance that these actions may be based on the backward nature of Ankh-Morpork, we shall offer the following:
1.) Immediate disbandment of all Ankh-Morpork units
2.) Immediate transfer of all cities with the exception of Home to The Blood Oath Horde.
3.) Reparations to The Blood Oath Horde in the amount of 20gpt
4.) No further construction of military units until and if The Khan decides that you may build them.
5.) Agreement to allow Blood Oath Horde troops to be stationed on Ankh-Morpork lands for all eternity.
6.) No tech research without specific Blood Oath Horde agreement
7.) All trades with other nations must be approved by The Great Council of The Blood Oath Horde.
8.) All future expansion must be approved by The Blood Oath Horde
We hope that you will accept these terms, but given the nature of your transgressions we will certainly not mourn if you do not.
The word of Heavy Axes heroic death has spread among all our troops. His name calls out for vengeance…He was Horde! Your people will soon understand what that truly means.
I remain,
PLATO
Ambassador of The Blood Oath Horde
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Paddy the Scot
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Hordeland
Mar 2001
time: 14:22
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Paddy says:
hello Lord Krill
Krill says:
Hello Paddy, how are you on this fine day?
Paddy says:
I be well, home 2 hours early from seeing clients
always a good thing
Krill says:
I talked to Chrisius the other day, so do you have the transcripts?
Paddy says:
yes
I need to let you know that I have taken over all comms betwee our nation
Krill says:
thats great 
Paddy says:
On that I would ask that unless Chris or Plato contact you direct (ie on behalf of me etc)
could you keep all comms to me
being chats here, or emails
I am happy for you to cc Chris and Plato on all emails
Krill says:
OK, no problem.
Paddy says:
tx mate
Krill says:
OK. Understood.
Krill says:
anything you want/need to know?
Paddy says:
no matey
just wanted to say hello
Krill says:
Paddy says:
how goes the settler, did he start off on his journey?
Krill says:
he is on his way to the hill 88 of Home.
Paddy says:
where did he start from
Krill says:
Memphis.
Paddy says:
tx
Paddy says:
so where is he now?
Krill says:
on the mountain 8 of Home.
Paddy says:
tx
Krill says:
I was told that you weren't certain where you wanted to settle the city.
Paddy says:
haha
Paddy says:
we have several sites
Krill says:
Paddy says:
lifeb is like that
Paddy says:
my concern is protecting the settler from babs and dr
Paddy says:
they both have warriors in the land
Krill says:
I have a reg spear on him.
Paddy says:
thank you
Krill says:
if you could spare two swords as an honour guard, I'm sure he would be fine from everything.
Paddy says:
done
Krill says:
I doubt a conscript warrior would damage the spear, but better safe than sorry.
Krill says:
And I don't know about the barbs
Paddy says:
indeed
Krill says:
Also, Do you have any idea where you want the second city to go?
Paddy says:
back again
Paddy says:
how long before the 2nd would be ready
Krill says:
depends on where the second city position is, could be two turns, or five.
Paddy says:
oh, ok
why the difference old chap?
Krill says:
well, two or five turns until the settler is built.
Krill says:
probably two turns, but it depends on if we have the units in place to protect the settler.
Paddy says:
ahhh well interesting
Paddy says:
ok
Paddy says:
I will get onto our Hordeland Control Board and let them nominatae
Krill says:
actually, now that I have just recheked the save, I'd say two turns.
Paddy says:
should have sites for you this time 2 days
Paddy says:
tx mate
Krill says:
we can have the units in place by then
Paddy says:
Paddy says:
off to make a cuppa
will you be here in 10 mins
Krill says:
cya, I think I'll do the same.
Krill says:
back
Paddy says:
hello again
Krill says:
Hello.
Paddy says:
have you and Ormuzd chattered lately
Krill says:
Not since wednesday.
Paddy says:
ok
Paddy says:
I offered Literature, he adviced that we offer it to Babs
they are on Monachy at the moment
Babs jumped at it
waiting on Beta coming home in next 24 hours to know how many turns
Paddy says:
no comment
Krill says:
OK, thanks for the info. If Eygpt can get into a monarchy prior to the war, we can do our share of the killing.
Paddy says:
saw you typing then nothing
Paddy says:
ahhh
Paddy says:
We hope you get it real soon
Krill says:
I am thinking about getting into Monarchy as soon as we get it.
Paddy says:
Babs owe us
Paddy says:
cool
Krill says:
Problem is, of course, the unit support.
Paddy says:
indeed
Krill says:
we could just about support it if you resent that 9gpt we are sending you.
Krill says:
well, that is really just a rough, and conservative, estimate
Paddy says:
indeed
Paddy says:
so I have much to discuss with you on Babs and diplomacy
Krill says:
really? Like discussion between us and the babs? Or discussion between BOH and the babs?
Paddy says:
all of the above
Krill says:
you can probably tell I am not a dilplomat at heart...
Paddy says:
how are your relations at this time
Paddy says:
indeed
Paddy says:
Krill says:
Basically, we have a rough border treaty, the southern mountain range.
Paddy says:
what do you see yourself as?
Krill says:
but we don't talk much, maybe one pm per week. if we are (un)lucky.
Krill says:
At the moment? well...average military.
Krill says:
economy wise, we are probaby average, but we can make WC, so that really tips the balance in our favour.
Paddy says:
I meant more of what do you see yourself as in player styles if not a diplomat
Paddy says:
war chariots are cool
Krill says:
that I understand I lot better. They did not invest in granaries, REXing when they hit a certain pop size.
Krill says:
They aren't building their cheap temples, but it loks like they ant lit for the cheap libs instead, so they are playing a long term game at the moment, without building a huge military.
Paddy says:
yes
Krill says:
well, It looks like they are playing builder, but badly.
Krill says:
IMO
Paddy says:
ahhh
Krill says:
then again, this is comingfrom someone who was warrior rushed...
Paddy says:
they have a warrior near memphis
Krill says:
a conscript
Paddy says:
ok
Krill says:
weakest unit you can get that has a defense stat. The perfect "scout"
Paddy says:
there is another north of our lands
Krill says:
few feel threatened by it, I suppose...
Krill says:
sorry, that was a repy to my former post.
Krill says:
Thay probably just want to scout. We've got a warrior behind DR.
Paddy says:
ahhh way do\wn south east
Krill says:
near your scout?
Paddy says:
oh near the volcaonoes
Krill says:
We'll probably see it shortly, but Cohen is returning home...
Krill says:
our warrior healing on the volcanoe...
Paddy says:
cool
Krill says:
Also, would it be possible for me and Ormuzd to talk to your generals when we near the date of invasion? We need to sort out our troop positions, tactics, and what not.
Paddy says:
That be me, I am the WarLord of the Red Guard
Krill says:
Ah, good. You might like to hear some of my proposals.
Krill says:
first of all, because Eygpyt is after babylon, but before BOH in the turn order, it is best that we attack first, so that the BAB unts can't heal before your attack.
Paddy says:
I will let you write while I put some dinner on
Paddy says:
will read as I go
Krill says:
but because your units are slow movers, you have to move next to the cities the turn before we attack.
Krill says:
OK, thanks.
Krill says:
so you are going to need "Combat settlers" to push back any evil culture that the babylonians have produced.
Krill says:
I reckon you need about 3 settlers minimum at the start of the war, maybe as many as 6. Luckily we could help to supply these by building the city, then gifting it to you.
Krill says:
you are going to need more swords. You are going toneed spears to protect them from any counterattacks you face. and I mean about 4 spears, 15 swords, and for good luck, catapults. Preferably about 10.
Krill says:
However, I seriously doubt you could a) build these and have them in position for the start of the war, and b) pay the support costs.
Krill says:
if we scedule the war for 25 turns from now (could be sooner), we could put up 15+ WC, if we don't get monarchy until (near) the start of the war.
Paddy says:
looks interesting
Krill says:
If we got Monarchy in about 10 turns, we could build more, but I don't know how many more
Paddy says:
ahhh
Krill says:
Point is, at the start of the war we will trigger our GA.
Paddy says:
yes
Krill says:
IF we get Monarchy sooner, I can get Eygpt in a postion to build a lot of military. Couple of WC a turn, easy.
Paddy says:
good value
Krill says:
If we get it late, we won't be in as good a position, maybe a WC a turn, maybe not.
Paddy says:
hopefully Babs will have it soon
Krill says:
I do hope they get it soon as well, and send it to you. I really do.
Paddy says:
well a new era is soon upon our fine nations
Krill says:
Med Era?
Krill says:
don't forget that the techs there cost alot of beakers.
Krill says:
Feud costs 800 beakers.
Paddy says:
indeed
Krill says:
with our GA, and if you sent us some gold, we could get that very quickly. we could probably get rather close to Knights...
Paddy says:
Horde Auditors will be most interested in this
Krill says:
well, I've sent the save now.
Paddy says:
cool
Paddy says:
I hereby officially offer your nation te use of our Auditor General.
A very useful chap, with a great knowledge, and an interesting twist on matters
Paddy says:
Meat in oven, working on vegies
Krill says:
who is your auditor general?
Krill says:
sunday roast?
Paddy says:
Rob
Paddy says:
yeah it is sunday indeed
Krill says:
Sorry, I don't know most peoples real names, only their screen names.
Krill says:
rcoutme?
Krill says:
after checking you civ group.
Paddy says:
yes
Paddy says:
if you have any questions for him, please do not hesitate to list them for me, and I will get him to look them over
Krill says:
er, my first question would be: Why no granary in you capital. It is an 8 turn settler pump, capable of producing 50 shields worth of units, and a settler every eight turns. yet you have it set to growth every 20 turns, building units. Why?
Paddy says:
ahh and that helps you how?
Paddy says:
auditing questions matey, not Horde Growth questions
Paddy says:
but I will ask anyway
Paddy says:
Krill says:
Well, we pretty much have everything sorted over here. Me and Ormuzd can MM no problem, so we don't really need the help, but thanks all the same
Paddy says:
cheers
Paddy says:
just so you know these services are available if you need them at such times
Paddy says:
as to our growth, you know we have 15 members, so in that the logic of 1 or 2 can be lost when numbers make themselves felt
Krill says:
Thanks. We may have a couple of questions for him involving finances at some point in the future.
Paddy says:
and how be your relations with old man aqua the desolator?
Krill says:
BRB
Krill says:
back
Krill says:
Back for real now
Krill says:
Let me put it this way. If I was Euphoricas shoes I would not stop til I had wiped aqua off the map. But that is just me.
Krill says:
I'm not a nice person when it comes to competitions
Paddy says:
Paddy says:
hehe
Krill says:
It stems from the fact that he demanded MM from us, for some info during our war that we already had. I'll be damned if someone thinks they can order me around when they are on the other side of the world.
Paddy says:
Aqua, Lord of the Arrogance
Krill says:
that is him alright.
Krill says:
But he is a very...resourceful player. And Trip is on that team, so I would be loathe to underestimate them.
Paddy says:
well said
Krill says:
I'm not sure, but I think that they just upgraded some warriors, so you may want to check F3 when you get the save, to see if they are average to you.
Paddy says:
ok
Paddy says:
I know they have iron and horse connected
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Paddy the Scot
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Hordeland
Mar 2001
time: 14:22
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Paddy (08:58 PM) :
hello
Ormuzd (08:59 PM) :
hi, Paddy
Paddy (09:06 PM) :
from here I will make all the following as official, - posted on our threads :-)
no problem matey
Ormuzd (09:07 PM) :
ok
what should we discuss?
Paddy (09:07 PM) :
Red Guard Operations have determined that the Babylonians are at this time a plum target
that they have failed to produce units at this time, and have allowed themselves to be targets for our Two Nations
Ormuzd (09:08 PM) :
RGO is your military department, isn't it?
Paddy (09:08 PM) :
Red Guard is our Army
Red Guard Operations is our military planning and intel department
at this time we have scouts determining whether we could get forces of our nations into Babylon with little notice
we believe we can achieve such actions shortly after the deal for Horde Lit - Bab Monachy to be completed
we determine that Babs will have Mona\chy in 10 turns
Ormuzd (09:10 PM) :
the majority of our forces consists of fast moving units
Paddy (09:11 PM) :
yes indeed
Ormuzd (09:11 PM) :
we plan to continue produce WC
Paddy (09:11 PM) :
a crushing force
excellent
Ormuzd (09:12 PM) :
we could switch to another type of units and form a SoD with various units
Paddy (09:13 PM) :
ahhh RGO Lt Col. Ljube would like to make some suggestions on that I am more than sure
he is like that ;-)
Now, just so we are clear on the rolls here
I be the WarLord of the Red Guard
Bongo be 1st General of the Red Guard
Ljube be Lt. Colonel, the Chief of Red Guard Operations
Ormuzd (09:13 PM) :
if you allow me an advice - build some spearmen to accompany your army
if youdo not allow me, just ignore this one
Paddy (09:13 PM) :
hehe
RGO feels they are not needed
Ormuzd (09:14 PM) :
ok, this means we should talk to you, Bongo or Ljube preferably inthis order regarding ou future operations
Paddy (09:14 PM) :
as our swordsmen have 2 defense, along with the 3 attack, where the spear are only defensive
ahh on comms, at this time I be your nations Prime conbtact point
Ormuzd (09:15 PM) :
I won't go in details because youhave shown as better strategists so far
Paddy (09:15 PM) :
Our Horde diplomatic branch has asked that I, Khan, be your nations contact, due to the friendship that you and I have.
I be honoured to have this role with your nation
Ormuzd (09:16 PM) :
but I really think it is a good idea to have some units which could be left as defenders of the cities or take the initial punches from the resisters we could expect in that environment
it is a real pleasure for us to have you as the main contact person to us
Paddy (09:17 PM) :
have no fear, Lt Col Ljube, along with many others in the Horde will be reading this chat
tx Ormuzd
Ormuzd (09:18 PM) :
let's summerize the chat so far
we are planning the operation "south culture visit" (SCV) to start aprox. 10 turns later
Paddy (09:18 PM) :
I do not have an exact time frame
Ormuzd (09:19 PM) :
if we have questions we address them directly to the Great Khan of the Horde
Paddy (09:19 PM) :
yes planning is now underway
yes all questions to me
Ormuzd (09:19 PM) :
very well
what is next?
Paddy (09:19 PM) :
if I am not on chat, please email me,
I will have an answer as soon as I can
Ormuzd (09:20 PM) :
ok
Paddy (09:20 PM) :
RGO would like a listing of what units that you have
so they can add to war plan
once plans prepared, I will present them to you and Krill to check and approve
then I would like to organize a chat between the 4 of us
You, Krill, Ljube and I
Ormuzd (09:21 PM) :
currently we have 19 units (I have seen their count yesterday, so the number is correct)
let's see if I'll be able to count them correctly
Paddy (09:22 PM) :
in this we need to manourve the units that we have within your lands
and do this in a way as to not cause you concern
it is the hope of RGO to hand you the keys of Babylon in the coming 20 -25 turns.
Ormuzd (09:23 PM) :
3 spearmen
5 warriors
3 war chariots
3 horsemen
3 workers
2 settlers
Paddy (09:23 PM) :
at minimun to have broken them, and for your nation to own several of their cities soon
Ormuzd (09:23 PM) :
exactly 19
Paddy (09:23 PM) :
thank you
Ormuzd (09:24 PM) :
horsemen - one regular, one vet, one elite
chariots - 2 veteran, 1 regular
warriors - all regulars, two are on scouting mission
spearmen - 1 regular, 1 veteran, 1 regular or veteran, not sure
my memory is quite weak, sorry
Paddy (09:24 PM) :
your information will do Ljube good
RGO have some good minds
it is our intel that no nation (possibly DR) have an understanding of the peace between our peoples
Ormuzd (09:25 PM) :
we were 1st in Mfg at the time we have made our alliance agreement
but we are lower ranked now
I think there is no reason for anyone to think the opposite
I think noone has an embassy in our Home
the only units we have seen are one Bab warrior and on DR warrior
the bab warrior has headed north of Memphis and it is out of sight for us
Paddy (09:27 PM) :
yes and we have stayed away from both mainly
Ormuzd (09:28 PM) :
the "military zone" is between us and noone should have an idea what troops are moving there
Paddy (09:28 PM) :
our understanding through intell is that they bother are heading to our north, where both already have a warrior each circlimg
Ormuzd (09:28 PM) :
no scouts spotted at our borders
Paddy (09:28 PM) :
DR have a warrior in there
Ormuzd (09:28 PM) :
two warriors can't be a problm
Paddy (09:29 PM) :
4 intotal, but not a problem
Ormuzd (09:29 PM) :
should we send a chariot to expect future bab movement?
Paddy (09:29 PM) :
I will leave that for RGO to say at this time
do you have map making at this time?
Ormuzd (09:32 PM) :
yes, we have
Paddy (09:32 PM) :
ok, thanks
Ormuzd (09:32 PM) :
I think youhave it too
Paddy (09:32 PM) :
yes we do indeed
we should have plans in the next two turns.
we need some intel on bab troop movements etc
then we can give some better plans than what we could offer right now :-)
Ormuzd (09:37 PM) :
ok
we should make an internal discussion too
Paddy (09:37 PM) :
good
Ormuzd (09:37 PM) :
what is next?
Paddy (09:37 PM) :
not much
that was my main point :-)
Ormuzd (09:38 PM) :
thank you very much abou this
than I'm going to ask one-two things
first - I'm not sure what did you discuss with krill and what not
Paddy (09:38 PM) :
I offered to Krill the other night the use of our Horde Auditor General's department
just if you ever need a back stop etc
Ormuzd (09:39 PM) :
I have read his reports about the talks he had with your team
Paddy (09:39 PM) :
I can send you the transcript
Ormuzd (09:39 PM) :
we have the transcript, no problem
it's just my memory as I said earlier :-)
Paddy (09:39 PM) :
yes, talks with my team
I ask that I be the only point of contact at the moment
saves all that confusion like we had last week
Ormuzd (09:39 PM) :
my questions are towards the budget sphere
Paddy (09:40 PM) :
bring them on
Ormuzd (09:40 PM) :
having the monarchy secured we have three sciences in this ancient era, one of them beaing optional
we are researching the republic now at the lowest possible rate
this means we need 46 turns more until we have it
we have an agreement with DR for Currency
the Currency should be sent from DR very shortly
but if they don't we will try our best to make them pay for this
construction is my concern
Paddy (09:42 PM) :
I believe we have a deal that will secure us construction :-)
Ormuzd (09:42 PM) :
while we are researching republic I think we have one option less for aquiring it
oh, this is great then
in this case I'd like to ask for the gold we are sending each turn - 9 gold pieces
currently we are at 10% science and we earn almost nothing due many our expectations
Paddy (09:43 PM) :
ahh indeed
Ormuzd (09:44 PM) :
the idea with the gold was to help you research monarchy as fast as possibl
Paddy (09:44 PM) :
I will take that to the Grand Council
Ormuzd (09:44 PM) :
having secured it and the other two important techs I think
Paddy (09:44 PM) :
should have an answer quickly
Ormuzd (09:44 PM) :
yes, thanks
if we are going to build swordsmen we will use the gold to upgrade some axe warriors to fine swordsmen
and the upgrade is littlle bit expensive
Paddy (09:46 PM) :
indeed, 60 gold per upgrade
I believe RGO would like you to upgrade your WC to Horsemen... I need to check that though
Ormuzd (09:47 PM) :
this is impossible
I think we have mentioned this problem already
aditionally having the monarchy and little bit cities I think we would like to trigger our GA
Paddy (09:48 PM) :
ahh indeed
Ormuzd (09:48 PM) :
thus developing our cities and building some GW
but the last option is something we could discuss later
it is just a general idea which was not even discussed in our team
Paddy (09:49 PM) :
do tell
Ormuzd (09:52 PM) :
one more thing
the settler is on the position you have requested initially
where should we move him next?
we are expecting your next order where should we move the settler
Paddy (09:53 PM) :
track him 8 once more, then east to our lands
Ormuzd (09:54 PM) :
8, then 9
or
8 then 6?
Paddy (09:54 PM) :
9
Ormuzd (09:54 PM) :
I hope you have some troops in the region to protect him?
Paddy (09:54 PM) :
it is my hope that we have the final answer to you soon
yes
Ormuzd (09:54 PM) :
we have sent a spearman and a warr chariot
Paddy (09:54 PM) :
and Krill said the 2nd one is almost ready
Ormuzd (09:55 PM) :
5 turns at most
but I think it will be ready 1 or 2 turns earlier
Paddy (09:55 PM) :
thank you
Ormuzd (09:55 PM) :
it is created in memphis
Paddy (09:55 PM) :
ok
Ormuzd (09:55 PM) :
just to help you make optimal movement orders for him
Paddy (09:56 PM) :
thank you
you mentioned earlier
- it is just a general idea which was not even discussed in our team
would you like to discuss this ?
Ormuzd (09:58 PM) :
about triggering the GA and how to use it
I can't discuss nothing yet :-)
I\m not even sure
Paddy (09:58 PM) :
ok matey :-)
Ormuzd (09:58 PM) :
what, where and how to do it
Paddy (09:59 PM) :
understanding that we can have back of house - unofficial chats
Ormuzd (09:59 PM) :
of cours
is it anything else to discuss official?
Paddy (09:59 PM) :
and Horde wants to see you and your nation flourish
looks all good to me :-)
thank you
Ormuzd (09:59 PM) :
great
thank youtoo
.
ah, I hate this keyboard
I have to use a hammer
especially for the space key
I was offline for 3-4 days during the weekend because there was a major problem withthe network of my ISP and I need to catch a little bit with the things happening around this game
Paddy (10:02 PM) :
you should have the save soon
it is moving very fast
Paddy (10:04 PM) :
yes it sure is
which I think is a good thing
it is somthing unusual
Paddy (10:06 PM) :
some good players
people that want to play the game sure does help
Paddy (10:07 PM) :
possible request of RGO coming thropugh
Paddy (10:09 PM) :
could you please provide info on the position of bab units west of Felinicity
Ormuzd (10:09 PM) :
we have no scouts there
the only unit we have seen is a conscript warrior who should be somewhere north of Memphis
Paddy (10:10 PM) :
is there a chance you could sent a warrior to have a look
Ormuzd (10:10 PM) :
I think we could send a unit to see what is happening there
Paddy (10:11 PM) :
thank you
Ormuzd (10:11 PM) :
what are youexpectin to see there?
or this is the only area you are not covering with your scouts?
Paddy (10:11 PM) :
we have no idea, thus reason for intel
Ormuzd (10:12 PM) :
fine
Paddy (10:12 PM) :
yes, we not willing to send to many unots their way, would tip our h\at etxc
Ormuzd (10:12 PM) :
indeed
and may have an ecxuse for sending units there
* and we may have
Paddy (10:13 PM) :
yes
cool
you would have more reason than us :-)
Ormuzd (10:15 PM) :
:/
babylonians are not stupid, not even close to stupid
we may need an advice what to answer them if they ask
and I think they will ask
Paddy (10:18 PM) :
ok
Ormuzd (10:18 PM) :
out of curiosity what is your current army?
Paddy (10:19 PM) :
messy and massive
which one?
we have two operational armies, along with garrisons
Ormuzd (10:20 PM) :
general stats
just want to have an idea
Paddy (10:20 PM) :
"Task Force Bloodshaft"
Bloodshaft (archer 4/4) - fort
Far Striker (archer 4/4) - fort
Scarface (swords 4/4) - fort
Long Blades (swords 4/4) - fort
Cardial Crusher (swords 4/4) - fort
Devourer of Light (swords 4/4) - fort
"Task Force Bataar"
Currently within lands between us and A-M
Horde Long Eyes (scout) - 2,4
Bataar (warrior 5/5) - 2
Shadow Striker (swords 4/4) - 2
Grim Death (swords 4/4) - 2
Bloodseeker (swords 4/4) - 1, to prevent DR warrior Dave from scouting the location of Taskforce Bloodshaft.
Bloodletter (swords 4/4) - 2,2
Paddy (10:21 PM) :
That is Army West
Ormuzd (10:21 PM) :
2 archers, 8 swords and a warrior
Paddy (10:21 PM) :
yes
and scout
fixing other stats
do you like our Army West
Ormuzd (10:26 PM) :
I hope it will be sufficient
Paddy (10:27 PM) :
intial plans were quite good
we also have our main army
Ormuzd (10:27 PM) :
"main army"?
youhave greater forse somewhere else?
Paddy (10:27 PM) :
and then their be the combination of our two forces
Ormuzd (10:28 PM) :
I think the Patriarch will make a decree which allows the thieves to perform actions south of Ankh-Morpork :-)
Paddy (10:29 PM) :
hehe
Ormuzd (10:29 PM) :
and afte this we will be free of sriminals for some time
Paddy (10:29 PM) :
indeed
Ormuzd (10:29 PM) :
except if the Patriarch offers the guilds to increase their numbers now
Paddy (10:30 PM) :
ahhh
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Hordeland
Mar 2001
time: 14:22
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Paddy(04:46 PM) :
hello
we have had a good turn rate again this weekend
Ormuzd (04:56 PM) :
I have expected to play two turns yesterday
Paddy(04:56 PM) :
ahhhh
that would have been good
Ormuzd (04:57 PM) :
but it didn't happen
ah, it's alright
I played the turn early in the morning but apparently I have sent the wrong file
it's good McM contacted me with MSN just before I leave
Paddy(04:58 PM) :
it is all good either way
will have monachy from the Babs in 5
the question is do we give to you that turn, or wait a turn or two for appearances sake
Ormuzd (04:59 PM) :
great
I'm not sure
I should take a look, inform krill, etc.
Paddy(05:01 PM) :
indeed
wanted to let you both have time to think that through
Ormuzd (05:05 PM) :
thanks
I have asked you earlier about the gold we are sending
it was originally supposed to help you research monarchy
do you have usage of it now?
being in despotism, not having iron and upgradable units now we don't have a real usage of it
right now I mean
but we are nearly 0 gpt although we are at 10% science because of all these settlers we have made - low population, actual loss of pop units with settlers who will build cities not for us, etc.
Paddy(05:08 PM) :
gold indeed
Paddy(05:19 PM) :
so far we have had 9 gold for 10 turns
and the process allows for another 10
I do not know a way to cancel it half way though without war
my suggestion is that once 1st settler is handed over we give you 90 gold to cover the last 10 payments
Ormuzd (05:20 PM) :
no need to cancel or even make a war
it works
which reminds me
Paddy(05:20 PM) :
as an aside the two workers have been sent as accepted this last turn
Ormuzd (05:20 PM) :
thanks
thy will start building a road
Paddy(05:21 PM) :
excellent
I will be getting a worker onto the road from our end soon as well
Ormuzd (05:21 PM) :
we have founded our eastern city (no memories how I named it)
Paddy(05:21 PM) :
excellent
Ormuzd (05:22 PM) :
I think the route will continue from it through the jungles/mountains/hills
we will calc the least number of turns to complete the task
Paddy(05:22 PM) :
ok
Ormuzd (05:22 PM) :
up until the city we will build for you next turns
Paddy(05:23 PM) :
would like to see a pic at some time, so my team can work towards yours
Ormuzd (05:23 PM) :
I think this is the shortest and faster way to connect us
Paddy(05:23 PM) :
just to recap, are you happy with that suggestion above on the gold?
or doi you have anoither idea
Ormuzd (05:25 PM) :
Yes, I'm happy
could you send instructions where will the second city be built?
Paddy(05:28 PM) :
ok
where is he now?
could you send through a pic of your lands :-)
I will do one up for you
Ormuzd (05:30 PM) :
I can't send you anything yet
but I think he is 99 from our eastern city (i.e. 99999 from Home)
Paddy(05:33 PM) :
ok
but I think he is 99 from our eastern city (i.e. 99999 from Home)
This is the 2nd settler right?
Ormuzd (05:35 PM) :
the second, right
the first should be 2111 from your southwestern city (can't remember the name)
Paddy(05:35 PM) :
Bohkara
yes 1 more step then settle and hand over ceremonies
Ormuzd (05:36 PM) :
:-)
ceremonies :-)
Paddy(05:36 PM) :
indeed
Ormuzd (05:36 PM) :
do you have defenders there already?
Paddy(05:36 PM) :
very very close
Ormuzd (05:37 PM) :
the only team that will have the chance to see the opperation should be Euphorica
Paddy(05:37 PM) :
and DR and Babs units have been driven off
Ormuzd (05:37 PM) :
this is very good indeed
Paddy(05:37 PM) :
is there a Bards unit near there
I have asked the Babs to follow the DR warrior
Ormuzd (05:38 PM) :
there was a conscript warrior north of Home
you have a sight for him
Paddy(05:38 PM) :
Bards = Euphorica
Ormuzd (05:38 PM) :
no, not any to see
Paddy(05:38 PM) :
ok, thanks
Ormuzd (05:38 PM) :
we are keeping eye on babs iron but I see your scout is there too
Paddy(05:39 PM) :
you do your thing, then bards, then us - awesome
our scout is leaving that area
you have good eyes on the situation
we would just cause hassles
Ormuzd (05:40 PM) :
having a horseman while "dying" should seem suspicious
:-)
Ormuzd (05:41 PM) :
but they can't see us (or at least I think so
Paddy(05:41 PM) :
hehe
in the coming 3 days I will be emailing to Krill and Yourself an explanation of what has been going on in the world, and why I feel the babs will be marching to war
there have been a great deal of politics, of which I am sure you have been involved in
it is my hope that our nations can take the "next step in openness and honesty"
we have come along way, and to truely continue on that track it is my belief that you need to have a fuller picture of a global situation.
Ormuzd (05:44 PM) :
we had no talks to anyone
except to DR for the currency
ah, yes, we have the currency but we have promised to not trade it to anyone
if you don't hurry with it we may wait a little bit until the others have and send it to you
thus DR will know someone traded it but they will not know who it was
Paddy(05:45 PM) :
good value
but they may figure out when they learn about our alliance
keep DR on a string
our alliance will be our secret for a while old chap
Ormuzd (05:46 PM) :
12 turns more I think
Paddy(05:50 PM) :
???
Ormuzd (05:51 PM) :
the attack is scheduled for turn 61
or 63?
it is turn 51 or 52 now
so, even less than 15
Paddy(05:52 PM) :
oh, my report here shows we were putting of for a while
Ormuzd (05:52 PM) :
how much?
noone informed me about this
if so we could make som more settlers to exploit the GA better
Paddy(05:53 PM) :
indeed
will just check my chat list
Paddy(05:57 PM) :
May 26th
Paddysays:
we have infor that Babs looking to march in 19 - 22 turns to war in east
Paddysays:
would be good to wait for then to take them out
Krill says:
that would be absolutely perfect fr me and Ormuzd.
Paddysays:
good
Paddy(05:58 PM) :
latest info is that they could have a 2nd wave not far after that
Ormuzd (06:00 PM) :
thanks
we will clear this matter with krill once he appears again
Paddy(06:01 PM) :
cool
Ormuzd (06:01 PM) :
but this will allow them switch to monarchy and maybe get construction
Paddy(06:01 PM) :
maybe
withconstruction and currency they will be in the next era
scientific = free tech
Paddy(06:02 PM) :
indeed
Ormuzd (06:02 PM) :
free tech = feudalism = very, very bad
Paddy(06:02 PM) :
indeed
thus why I want to bring you up to speed on matters
Ormuzd (06:06 PM) :
I understand now why krill wanted more settlers
which is genarally a good idea
Paddy(06:07 PM) :
yes
Ormuzd (06:07 PM) :
more settlers - more tiles worked - greater bonus from the GA
Paddy(06:07 PM) :
:-D
Ormuzd (06:07 PM) :
with our granaries we get our population back very fast
Paddy(06:07 PM) :
excellent
Ormuzd (06:07 PM) :
out of curiosity why do you need so big capital?
Paddy(06:08 PM) :
big?
Ormuzd (06:08 PM) :
is it eally necessary?
population 8
Paddy(06:08 PM) :
ahhh 8
Ormuzd (06:08 PM) :
I think you have joined a worker there even
Paddy(06:08 PM) :
good unit production
Ormuzd (06:08 PM) :
it is not growing already
Paddy(06:08 PM) :
yes
have you had the save in the last few hours?
Ormuzd (06:10 PM) :
two hours ago - not
Paddy(06:10 PM) :
ok
I need to check, but number 1 settler might be in position
Ormuzd (06:10 PM) :
please, do so
I'll make a screen shot after one or two hours and I'll send it to you to show where the settlers are now
Paddy(06:11 PM) :
I have them sighted at the moment
Dor - settler 1
Donum - settler 2
Ormuzd (06:12 PM) :
I think so
we named them to distinct and not confuse with our other settlers
Ormuzd (06:13 PM) :
because the settlers have a short live :-)
Paddy(06:15 PM) :
Lord Ormuzd,
please confirm the location as 1,1,2 of Bohkara
please know that I place Dor and The Trousers of Time at that position
if you agree, then please settle at this location
Bloodseeker - Horde Swordsman is ready to occupy straight away
Ormuzd (06:18 PM) :
I will check and settle if they are really at that position (which I think is true but I can't remember what was the last move)
Paddy(06:18 PM) :
cool
Ormuzd (06:20 PM) :
the city will be sent immidiately to you as accepted
if there are any problems I'll contact you
Paddy(06:20 PM) :
thanks mate
Paddy(06:21 PM) :
appropriate that I sent the two workers this turn then ;-)
Ormuzd (06:24 PM) :
yes, thanks
there was no need to delay it - as soon we have them, that much faster they will start building the road which will benefit both of us
Paddy(06:26 PM) :
well said
are you available in a few hours?
Ormuzd (06:29 PM) :
yes, I'm available in the next 5 hours
Ormuzd (06:30 PM) :
except the lunch break and the meeing with the boss (if it happens)
Paddy(06:30 PM) :
indeed :-)
I will start writting up my notes, could be able to get some of this information to you today, instead of 3 days time
Ormuzd (06:31 PM) :
if you have the time it would be great
Paddy(06:32 PM) :
need to do 3 rounds of deserts soon, and have a few pbems, but I would like to get it to you while both on line to discuss
Ormuzd (06:33 PM) :
alright
I think I'll be available tonight too
but this already a night for you and I don't want to steal your sleep just because of a game
Paddy(06:34 PM) :
hehe - what is sleep?
and matey, this be a great game
good for my mind
Ormuzd (06:35 PM) :
it is a blood bath and it seems it will go more deep in violance and bloodshed
Paddy(06:37 PM) :
ahhhh that is one component
Glad we are on the same side
Ormuzd (06:38 PM) :
:-)
hopefully on the right sight of the sword
Paddy(06:38 PM) :
and the Horse
Ormuzd (06:39 PM) :
and eveything else
Paddy(06:39 PM) :
You know only too well the way the Mongol loves his Horse
Ormuzd (06:39 PM) :
even on the right of the table
because below the table is not a very nice spot
yes, I know
if the horse could cook they would not need women :-)
Paddy(06:40 PM) :
hehe
I have sent you an email
a pic of our lands
and proposed site for Donum - settler 2
there are 2 circles - horde is discussing
Ormuzd (06:50 PM) :
alright
you have 5 turns to decide
Paddy(06:50 PM) :
the yello one is my prime choice
you got the email then?
Ormuzd (06:55 PM) :
yes, I have seen the picture
Paddy(06:55 PM) :
cool
Ormuzd (06:55 PM) :
I think the last move will be to the mountain and after this go to the location you decide
Paddy(06:56 PM) :
ok
I was just trying to keep you off the peaks, so not to be seen by wandering LB units
Horde will have a few units in the area, just as we have now for the 1st settler
Ormuzd (06:58 PM) :
yeah, if some problems arise we will make changes
Paddy(06:58 PM) :
cheers
do you have any questions or things you would like to discuss?
Ormuzd (06:59 PM) :
none I can think of
Paddy(06:59 PM) :
ok, I will leave you in peace
and get some of this matter sorted out :-)
I will come back in a while ;-)
Paddy(07:00 PM) :
thank you for this chat
Ormuzd (07:00 PM) :
alright
I'll leave after about 30 minutes
thank you too
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