04-03-2005 00:37									#61
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whilst we wait they prepare

	04-03-2005 18:02									#62
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This was posted by orzmund in the "Battle Reports" thread in the main forum.

quote: Oh, god I expected The Horde to be the first involved in a war. Or maybe there are tensions between them and Euphorica?

Did we tell them we had contact with Euphorica?

	04-03-2005 18:11									#63
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No, but it was pretty simple to extrapolate.

Chinese start with masonry and we had masonry very soon. The other option would have been Carthage.

	05-03-2005 20:35									#64
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Internal problems with the pigs??

Krill's post in the Ambassador contact thread:

quote: After some discussion, culd all of the ambassadors to Ankh Morpork send all communiques to both me and Ormuzd. Safer to do that, so that the message will get poosted qucker...

Perhaps their Ambassador is making deals that the leadership is having trouble with????

	05-03-2005 20:44									#65
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add to that what quite is a "pooster" then?

sounds a little to close for comfort indeed

	05-03-2005 21:11									#66
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take 'em out I say

	05-03-2005 21:12									#67
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* we should cook 'em alive

	05-03-2005 21:17									#68
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We really should start working on a plan. Ljube had some good ideas I think.

Should we try for a round of expansion first and then attack?

	05-03-2005 21:22									#69
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Expansion indeed

gather a fine force, a Horde

then swamp them

	05-03-2005 21:26									#70
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So then. We are talking 2-3 more cities...creating defenders for them...creating a Horde...and then marching to Porker country? It seems as if that will be awfully time consuming...

	05-03-2005 21:35									#71
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hahaha

well we can certainly change that

the hut we are about to pop, a settler would indeed be good...

and we already have several units that we can gather into the makings of a Horde

time consuming indeed...

	06-03-2005 00:40									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Ljube-ljcvetko No, but it was pretty simple to extrapolate. Chinese start with masonry and we had masonry very soon. The other option would have been Carthage.

well it is then good to see they are thinking over there

for it is easier to out manourve a thinker, than someone who uses only random thoughts and rash reactions

	06-03-2005 01:22									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot well it is then good to see they are thinking over there for it is easier to out manourve a thinker, than someone who uses only random thoughts and rash reactions

Hey I resemble that remark

	17-03-2005 23:21									#74
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I'm alway a bit confused w/ who has said what, so I hope I'm not posting something here that has been answered before.

I posted earlier in the ambassador thread asking if we have had any contact w/ the porkers in the last few turns. And just for clarification... did we eventually make the double trade or did/are stalling?

As stated before, it seems that the rest of the world has a good idea that we are talking w/ Euph... better question is... who else is talking to them? And moreover who is talking to the porkers. Seeing the recent arrival of the Babylonians to our hemisphere, is it possible as we may prepare for war that the Babylonians will aid the Porkers in tech trades?

There are many more possibilities to think about, but these were the questions of this mountain dweller in hopes of becoming more informed and wise in the ways of the Horde.

	18-03-2005 02:18									#75
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We exchanged our warrior code for porker ceremonial burial plus 15 gold. I haven't talked with them since. It's been more than a week.

They posted on various occasions they feared/expected war actions from our horde. Well, let's not disappoint the pigs.

	20-03-2005 05:39									#76
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The dang pigs have had the save for over 13 hours on a Saturday! Another reason they should die!!

	20-03-2005 05:44									#77
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indeed

Had hoped to have played the save by now....

	20-03-2005 06:59									#78
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO The dang pigs have had the save for over 13 hours on a Saturday! Another reason they should die!!

why this aint on our flag we should be waving I dun know

	20-03-2005 21:18									#79
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Based on our Great Ambassador's diplomacy, I believe we must consider that the pigs may have their UU up and running. How does this affect our war plans? What are the implications of fighting them if they are in their GA?

Additionally, I am betting that they may have gracious relations with the Babs now and could possibly be getting into a tech swap with them.

The bottom line is...does war now become more of a priority? With the production of a 4th city imminent for us, will this give us equal footing if they are in a GA with only 3 cities? Should we push for 6 cities before we attack? Can we wait that long?

Inquiring minds want to know! Your opinions brother Mongols are needed!!

Great Khan, I believe that these decisions would warrant an e-mail summons to all our leaders...the future course of our great civilization is likely to be determined by these matters. Do you concur?

	20-03-2005 21:41									#80
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plans,shplans, have you all seen what propaganda they are spreading around our land?



They are subvertin our younguns is what they r doin

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	20-03-2005 22:26									#81
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We should atack only when weare strong enough!!

We should attack that is for sure, but were way to spread out ATM with exploration!

	20-03-2005 22:40									#82
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quote: Originally posted by ChrisiusMaximus We should atack only when weare strong enough!! We should attack that is for sure, but were way to spread out ATM with exploration!

I agree that we are spread out. We need to start planning though.

	21-03-2005 09:09									#83
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We're cranking out warriors every two turns in KBH. And pigs don't have wheel, I checked. Also, Lord Nuc is the sucker who offered wheel for myst.

The main decision is do we max out taxes or not?

	21-03-2005 13:00									#84
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Max taxes sounds good but we should keep research running at 10 percent at least !!

	21-03-2005 18:21									#85
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO Based on our Great Ambassador's diplomacy, I believe we must consider that the pigs may have their UU up and running. How does this affect our war plans? What are the implications of fighting them if they are in their GA? Additionally, I am betting that they may have gracious relations with the Babs now and could possibly be getting into a tech swap with them. The bottom line is...does war now become more of a priority? With the production of a 4th city imminent for us, will this give us equal footing if they are in a GA with only 3 cities? Should we push for 6 cities before we attack? Can we wait that long? Inquiring minds want to know! Your opinions brother Mongols are needed!! Great Khan, I believe that these decisions would warrant an e-mail summons to all our leaders...the future course of our great civilization is likely to be determined by these matters. Do you concur?

ahhh we have some issues indeed..

I feel we are actually some turns away from actual war... and we have the opportunity to find a few more huts at this time... I dream of more settlers indeed

and yes all should be involved in this...

ahhh we will know soon where the iron lies. we then may need to connect it, we then need all the gold to upgrade our warriors, we then may also want a city not connected by roads to continue producing warriors... yes many things to consider indeed

	29-03-2005 03:57									#86
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An update on Porkers. I couldn't stop laughing when I saw it yesterday.

First our foreign minister reports their best unit is worker!

Second, more serious one, remember the early turns when I was concerned about the fact the Porkers didn't build warriors as expected? Well, it turns out they built temples instead!!!!! Look at their cultural score!!!





I only hope they built a temple in each of their cities!!!

	29-03-2005 05:26									#87
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No, Home is the only city they have completed temple in. It has the same culture score as their entire civ does.

	02-04-2005 02:40									#88
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My latest chat with ormuzd. Half of it is in Serbian/Bulgarian.

To read that part, right click your web browser, select encoding select more and then click Cyrillic (Windows).



Ljube: says:
Hi Todor!
Todor: says:
hi
Todor: says:
did you receive the save?
Ljube: says:
yeah, played and sent
Todor: says:
great
I'll play a turn tomorrow in the morning
Todor: says:
after this I'll go to play some football and will be back ~noon
Ljube: says:
So, Todor Georgiev is your real name?
Todor: says:
yeah
Ljube: says:
Perhaps we can try to communicate speaking our mother tongues.
Todor: says:
perhaps
Todor: says:
но не съм сигурен доколко добре ще се разбираме
Todor: says:
ти си от сърбия, нали?
Ljube: says:
da
Ljube: says:
да
Ljube: says:
разумемо се врло добро
Ljube: says:

Todor: says:
е, чудесно
Todor: says:
когато не се разберем, ще пробваме на английски
Ljube: says:
да
Ljube: says:
да видимо сада за demo game
Todor: says:
какво за нея?
Todor: says:
спомням си, че предложихте за азбуката нещо последно
Todor: says:
ама се случи да съм в лошо настроение и бях малко рязък
Ljube: says:
ти сам играш
Ljube: says:
твој тим није много активан
Todor: says:
кой знае каква войска сте ни подготвили
че и при тия войници дето се разхождат насам-натам около територията ни...
Todor: says:
ми да
Todor: says:
за съжаление така се получи
Ljube: says:
хахаха
Todor: says:
аз се записах в отбора заради conqueror
Todor: says:
а той изчезна
Todor: says:
след това и на Krill му се повреди лаптопа
Todor: says:
останалите никакви не се виждат
Todor: says:
и на мен ми стана тъпо
Todor: says:
с всички демо игри така става
Ljube: says:
да, то није више демо игра, то је сад соло игра с твоје стране
Todor: says:
именно
Todor: says:
аз ще лягам да спя, че едва гледам вече
а утре пак трябва да стана по-рано заради спортуването
Todor: says:
по добре стана, че установихме онлайн контакт
Todor: says:
лека нощ
Ljube: says:
који спорт?
Todor: says:
футбол
Ljube: says:
лака ноћ и теби
Todor: says:
moonbars не е пратил сейв
ще трябва да го питаме дали ползва някаква подобна програма и да играем наистина бързо
Todor: says:
благодаря, лека и на теб


This is the translation of the chat above:



Ljube: says:
Hi Todor!
Todor: says:
hi
Todor: says:
did you receive the save?
Ljube: says:
yeah, played and sent
Todor: says:
great
I'll play a turn tomorrow in the morning
Todor: says:
after this I'll go to play some football and will be back ~noon
Ljube: says:
So, Todor Georgiev is your real name?
Todor: says:
yeah
Ljube: says:
Perhaps we can try to communicate speaking our mother tongues.
Todor: says:
perhaps
Todor: says:
but I’m not so sure we’re going to understand each other well
Todor: says:
you are from Serbia, aren’t you?
Ljube: says:
yes
Ljube: says:
yes
Ljube: says:
we understand each other very well
Ljube: says:

Todor: says:
eh, wonderful
Todor: says:
if we don’t understand something, we’ll try English
Ljube: says:
yes
Ljube: says:
let’s see now about demo game
Todor: says:
what is your suggestion?
Todor: says:
as far as I recall, you offered something for alphabet
Todor: says:
but I was in a bad mood and was a bit rude
Ljube: says:
you are playing this game alone right now
Ljube: says:
your team is not very active
Todor: says:
who knows what kind of army you have already prepared when you can spare so many soldiers to roam around our territory
Todor: says:
our team, yes
Todor: says:
so sad it all came to this
Ljube: says:
hahaha
Todor: says:
I joined the game because of conqueror
Todor: says:
and he vanished
Todor: says:
after that Krill’s laptop broke down
Todor: says:
no trace of others
Todor: says:
so it’s all on me
Todor: says:
the same situation is with all demo games
Ljube: says:
yes, it’s not a demo game any more, it’s a single game on your side
Todor: says:
indeed
Todor: says:
I’m going to bed, can’t keep my eyes open
And tomorrow I must get up early to practice some sport
Todor: says:
it was good we established this online contact
Todor: says:
good night
Ljube: says:
which sport?
Todor: says:
football
Ljube: says:
good night to you too
Todor: says:
moonbars didn’t play his save
we should ask him if he has some appropriate software so we can meet and play really fast
Todor: says:
thank you and good night

Last edited by Ljube on 02-04-2005 at 03:25

	04-04-2005 08:49									#89
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There has been a change in strategy with the pigs...but not a change in objective. Please check out the chats among the The Blood Cell here:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...042#post3715042

and here:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...386#post3715386

This strategy is summarized in The Ambassadorial Thread Here:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=131662

In light of these developments I have sent ormuzd the following e-mail:

quote: Greetings Great Leader of The Mighty Ankh-Morpork People, I am PLATO of The Blood Oath Horde, and I have been assigned by my Great Khan to be the Ambassador to your great people. It is the feeling of our Horde that relations have gotten off to a poor start. We are saddened by this and wish an improvement. The Horde felt that a new Ambassador could help us both usher in a new era of hope and co-operation. We feel that there are many great things to be achieved for both our civilizations by an atmosphere of peace and good will. I would like to chat with you about these matters in general and a couple of specific scenarios that I believe your good people would be interested in. My icq number is 275-390-603. I look forward to speaking with you at your convienience. PLATO Ambassador to Ank-Morpork

I await his reply...

	04-04-2005 11:13									#90
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cheers mate