08-06-2005 03:03									#91
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Btw - as most of you may have noticed - this message came with the 1600bc save.

quote: Horde sends greetings to the Lords of Babylon, The year be 1600bc, and we have struck a small blow against the Desolators. It is far from monumental, but enough to unhinge them a little we hope. http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...487#post3843487 For your understanding we have had a hassle with Desolator Dave (warrior 3/3) from just before the war with A-M started, so the Desolators may think that this has nothing to do with the matter they are having with the Bards. The Grand Desolator has already contacted me over this matter, and I had not even finished the save Basically I believe we have struck a blow that will ripple out well, and could have just put the Desolators off step a little. May the wind fill you sails on a calm day. Paddy

	08-06-2005 09:09									#92
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re: The Grand Desolator has already contacted me over this matter...

I say ask what that contact was. Maybe disclose what DR is asking of us. If we can get TNA to stay hidden and play with TNA's mind all the better.

	09-06-2005 11:57									#93
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They built the Statue of Zeus, and they are showing off:

(from the message that came with the save)

The Crowd gathers in the Grand Statue of Zues Plaza

Drums begin to pound.... the sound picks up...
more drums join in.... the sound picks up...
then from behind you more drums join in.... the sound picks up...
this continues for a few minutes, then..
to both the left and the right of the Grand Statue of Zeus Plaza more drums join in.... the sound picks up...

soon no one can speak from the noise of the drums

their pace picks up.....

and silence.... it is almost deafening!

* Lord Soothsayer Plato of the Blood Oath Horde calls the plaza to order, after the drums, there is no talk, and all canhear him

Lords, Ladies, Honoured Guests and Visiting Dignitaries,

It is with great pleasure that we invite you all here to our city of the "Khan's Blood Hall" to celebrate the Grand Opening of this Great Wonder of the World.

Many a year of work and preperation has gone into the very wonder that stands before you.

May your hearts be lifted in the ways of the Horde.

Here be thy Khan

* Khan Paddy steps up

Welcome One and All.

You have all been very patient and understanding. For that I give you my praise and thanks.

I give you the Statue of Zeus.

It is time for a Horde Party!!!

You have all played hard, now go party hard

Blood Oath Mates

* near 350 000 people of the Horde, yes almost the entire city of "Khan's Blood Hall" and many from neighbouring cities went on to celebrate well into the week, as is only the way in the Horde...

	10-06-2005 00:40									#94
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quote: Greetings Lords of Babylon Could you please provide Red Guard Operations with an update of the "1st Babylonian Battle Patrol", along with their estimated time of arrival at Plot Point Centre, as marked on the attached map? We are also thus interested in any details that you have on the "2nd Babylonian Battle Patrol" reaching the same point. May the wind fill you sails on a calm day. Paddy Blood Oath Horde paddythescot@gmail.com

If by "First Babylonion Battle Patrol" he means Sheridan, Sheridan is in their sight this turn. I'm not sure if Sinclair will enter their vision, but he'll reach/pass "plot point centre" in a few turns.

If he thinks we're actually going to be sending groups of horses, I suppose we should inform him we're sending them piecemeal.

	10-06-2005 00:48									#95
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I think he should know that we committed to TNA and the DR War, but that we are a peaceful and cultural people, not a blood thirsty war machine.

We will send horses as we can.

Long live TNA.
Long Live Babylon!

	10-06-2005 05:59									#96
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I read in the chat the "Patrol" would be more than 1 horse, am I wrong?

	10-06-2005 07:18									#97
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No - I made it clear in the chat that we only have 3 or 4 horse now. I think his reference to 'patrol' means 1 unit. I think they simply want some form of commitment from us. And having Sheridan and the others ride by their territory and assemble at some gathering point is fine with me.

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This is living in lively times.

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quote: Greetings Lords of Babylon It is my hope that this finds you well and enjoying the rapid turn rate of this amazing game. Since our chat on June 6, game year 1625bc, we have moved on 4 turns, 100 years, much is happening. It is my understanding that the game will move at least another full turn in the coming 24 hours, bring us to 1500bc. This email is for three items: 1. Babylonian battle Patrols; 2. Techonlogial Trades; 3. Technological Trade. ------------------------------------------------------ Point 1. I had hoped to have had a reply on the whereabouts of your "1st Babylonian Battle Patrol", along with their estimated time of arrival at Plot Point Centre, as marked on the attached map. So far we have only seen two single units: Sheridan (horseman 4/4) and Sheridan (horseman 4/4), some 7 tiles apart. Anyway I thought maybe I was making to much of the matter, so I checked as per our chat on June 6, game year 1625bc, as the following extract is from, and thus would like to know where we are upto at this time, if that is alright. ------------------------------------------------------ 2. The War on DR. 2.1 Babylonian availability 2.1 Paddy says: so you have more troops avail? Beta says: OK - we have some horsemen now (read - more than 3) with more on the way. We also have bowmen - lots - but there slower movement is an issue. Paddy says: Horse will be so important Beta says: Also - we would like to delay our GA as long as possible. Paddy says: Red Guard Operations (RGO) would like to see your horse gather and start moving soon your initial 3 - 4 horse would make a great battle patrol for picking off stray DR troops over on the war front Beta says: Understood. We can do this. Paddy says: thus not setting off you GA, by keeping your bowmen at home thus a 2nd Babylonian Battle Patrol could be what swings the final outcome ------------------------------------------------------ Point 2. At this time the Bards and the Horde are openly at war with the Desolators. Both nations have committed troops and the war progresses. A lot of time is being spent on manoeuvring and counter manoeuvring. The battle reports will be long and very grusome when the opposing forces finally do meet. ------------------------------------------------------ Point 3. Ok, so technology, as per the following details from our last chat, the Horde looks forward to the finalization of the trade of Map Making and Literature for Monarchy this coming turn. I can confirm that currency will be available before the 15 turns as discussed below, possibly 9 - 11. This all depends on the war and unit production, as I am sure you would understand. ------------------------------------------------------ 6. Technologies 6.1 Babylonian research of Monarchy 6.1.2 The Horde have it that Babylon will complete this tech in approx 3 - 4 turns, as per correspondence in the last 14 days 6.1.3 The Horde still has Literature on the table, as agreed, along side of Map Making, which you received as part of the "Three Nation Summit Technological Trade Agreement" 6.1.3.1 Map Making was to be traded for Mathematics, which unfortunately Babylon were not able to secure Math from the Desolators, thus leaving this agreed to Technological Credit 6.1.4 Only the Bards and the Horde have Literature at this time Beta says: Agreed. No problem. May I suggets we move along to 6. I am completely bagged. hehe Paddy says: indeed Beta says: Yes - when last I glanced - Monarchy in 3-4, maybe 5. I can chcek and confirm. Paddy says: either is good Beta says: checking .... Paddy says: ok, thank you Beta says: 4 Paddy says: tx Beta says: From what I can tell from the turn threads and without restarting civ. Paddy says: The Horde Auditor General has been singing songs of this technology over his beer jug for weeks Beta says: hehe LB has been flogging CoL with us for a while now. Paddy says: Seems each time I wander the streets of Khans Blood Hall, our capital, I have him asking me when will we be recieving it. Beta says: Where do we stand on contsruction and currency? hehe - bureaucrats! Paddy says: I feel that these techs are 15 - 20 turns away hehe Beta says: Are they underway? Paddy says: although DR has currency yes they are Beta says: What say ye of trading LB Monarchy for currency. Paddy says: hmmmm do you see Monarchy helping DR? Beta says: My only concern is that 1889 may trade it to DR. Paddy says: I feel at this time LB and DR are just swapping everything indeed Beta says: Yes - agreed. And AM? Paddy says: they have issues Beta says: Just trying to survive?? Paddy says: they are growing, and have a strong pressence Beta says: Later. Paddy says: yes indeed Paddy says: can I come back to you on the LB Currency issue Beta says: yep - it all depends on what we feel is best for the alliance. We make the call together. Paddy says: I would like to get more input from Hordeland Control, Auditor Generals Department, and the Blood Cell, our Foreign Affairs department Beta says: Man - I can imgaine all the memos. And committees. And sub-committees. Paddy says: We be Horde, we have a central meeting hall, The Wild Boar, which is basically our pub. Many meetings are held there, and many a Council member can be found there wrapped in rugs sleeping off the effects of the brews of truth Beta says: Ahhhh - a committee. Paddy says: indeed ------------------------------------------------------ The Horde is ever happy that we have a strong alliance and that the future looks so good. I had hoped that some of you would have attended the recent celebrations we held for the completion of the first wonder of the game, sad none of you could turn up. The parties went for quite some time, and the hangover lasted almost as long - haha. Hoping your great Nation is growing well and your people are prospering. Looking forward to your response, May the wind fill you sails on a calm day. Paddy Blood Oath Horde

	12-06-2005 03:00									#100
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re: 1
I thought he knew that we were low on Horses. He should know that as we can supply some man power we are not a blood thirsty and barbaric civilization.

re: 2
What does an upcoming battle report have to do with tech trades? I appriciate that Eu and BOH are doing the heavy lifting. If we stay out of the actual fight we might be able to get techs for DR to help TNA. What are BOH and Eu's thoughts on this angle?

re: 3
yes. Make the trade.

	13-06-2005 07:50									#101
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To Paddy tonight via e-mail:

quote: Dear Great and Bloody Khan of the Horde. My humble apologies for our silence. Prayer and study. Prayer and study. It is the Babylonian way. I am pleased to say that Monarchy is completed. We can complete a tech deal shortly. We do ask that you not trade it on to other civs. It has been quite an investment in research and we would like to get caught up in tech. Also - you had provided a rendevous point for the 1st Babylonian Cavalry Corps. Our horse are ariving singly, and in fact Sheridan is now 9-9-9-9 of the identified site next to the volcanoes. Sinclair is 3 tiles from that point, and Ivanova three tiles behind. Other units are produced next turn and talke the field. One horse is remaining behind to scout the western front. So, in terms of military action, we will take our cue from you or Euphoriscan. Please advise. In terms of tech dealing, we may want to time a trade of Monarchy to DR. If it is done, we should do it, as it would be an obvious trade if we are taking them up on their offer of co-operation. The trick is, we monitor the f3 screen, and when they fall into anarchy - we attack. They are not religious, so we have 3-6 turns with no production. If we foresee a quick and decisive strike by our three civs, this may work to our advantage. Please give the idea some thought, and feel free to discuss it with Bards. I am cc'ing McMeadows, so he will be aware of our conversation and the status of tech and military matters. Regards from Babylon, and may the good will of Inanna bless your Great Blood Hall and all those that abide there. ....Beta of Babylon.

	13-06-2005 07:57									#102
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Well done. You are sneaky. It's too bad that by the time that I learn how to play PBEM, everyone will have moved on to cIV.

	13-06-2005 11:48									#103
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Be not here a couple of hours (a week?) and so many things happen.

	13-06-2005 16:58									#104
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His response:

quote: Lord Beta of Babylon, Thanks mate, Thank you greatly I will take this before the Horde Council this hour. May your people continue in their study and prayer. This is obviously a great blessing to you and the fellow Lords of Babylon. Please know that the Horde understands your desires with the technological issues completely. I like your plans on trading it with the Desolators, a very interetsing concept indeed. I will be in touch regarding troop movement shortly. The war is underway, that is for sure. Take care, blessings and peace to you and your magnificent people, Paddy of the Horde

	13-06-2005 22:40									#105
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Looks like it's time to trade Monarchy with DR. But don't give it away.

	15-06-2005 09:40									#106
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From Paddy.

We seem to have our wires crossed.

quote: Greetings Lords of Babylon Thank you for placing Monarchy on the trade table. We have accepted the deal, just unsure why you did not accept it when you sent it, as we all know we were just awaiting Monarchy, which you have had a turn or two now I believe. Have we done something to further offend you? Are we reading to much into this matter? Be well Paddy

I thought we still needed to negotiate a deal. However, looking at the above chat, I remember BOH thinks they get it for Lit alone.

	15-06-2005 09:42									#107
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Tracing it back, it looks like during the intial formation of the alliance, we gave Poly to both BOH and Euphorica for Map Making, HBR, and Philo. However, looking even further back, we already had a deal with BOH for Poly. IW + gold for poly.

So, my mistake. They do have a tech credit from Map Making.

	15-06-2005 09:46									#108
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Sent back to Paddy.

quote: My mistake. Accepted the deal on our end. -Kloreep

	15-06-2005 09:56									#109
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Back from Paddy

quote: thanks mate no sooner did I open the save, then Horde emails and chat boxes opened up all over the shop.... all very curios have a great turn

	15-06-2005 13:52									#110
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Looks peaceful to us.

	15-06-2005 19:04									#111
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Yes a smiling Horde is a good Horde.

	15-06-2005 22:29									#112
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Until they grinningly shove a sword between our blades.

I'm just thankful we're not their neighbors.

	15-06-2005 22:36									#113
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Maybe we keep that in mind when dividing up land - try to keep someone between us.

I don't trust the smiling Horde.

	16-06-2005 10:14									#114
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Are they all bluff and bluster?

I have asked a few questions this past ten days trying to catchup. Learning fast,

	16-06-2005 14:19									#115
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Through reading this again, found this in Kloreep Post:

BoH said:
I had hoped to have had a reply on the whereabouts of your "1st Babylonian Battle Patrol", along with their estimated time of arrival at Plot Point Centre, as marked on the attached map. So far we have only seen two single units: Sheridan (horseman 4/4) and Sheridan (horseman 4/4), some 7 tiles apart.

Paddy says:
Red Guard Operations (RGO) would like to see your horse gather and start moving soon
your initial 3 - 4 horse would make a great battle patrol for picking off stray DR troops over on the war front
Beta says:
Understood. We can do this.

Then skrobism posted:
re: 1
I thought he knew that we were low on Horses. He should know that as we can supply some man power we are not a blood thirsty and barbaric civilization.

Then later Beta sent:
Also - you had provided a rendevous point for the 1st Babylonian Cavalry Corps. Our horse are ariving singly, and in fact Sheridan is now 9-9-9-9 of the identified site next to the volcanoes. Sinclair is 3 tiles from that point, and Ivanova three tiles behind. Other units are produced next turn and talke the field. One horse is remaining behind to scout the western front.

Do BoH expect 1st Babylonian Battle Patrol to have four horsemen? And we only sent one. Have BoH been told?

2 Kin 24:13-14 "And Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon carried out from there all the treasures of the house of the LORD and the treasures of the king's house, and he cut in pieces all the articles of gold which Solomon king of Israel had made in the temple of the LORD, as the LORD had said. Also he carried into captivity all Jerusalem: all the captains and all the mighty men of valor, ten thousand captives, and all the craftsmen and smiths. None remained except the poorest people of the land."

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	17-06-2005 04:40									#116
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We've sent more, but only after sending Sheridan. We'll have four up there eventually, but it'll take several turns still.

From Paddy:

quote: Greetings Lords of Babylon The following map contains a proposed attack for your mighty Babylonian Horsemen. Map Key: Blue rectangle - meeting point. Blue line - approach to Aquarius. Red line - destruction of Aquarius. The Horde have just destroyed the Desolator town of Sidon, which lay to the North East of Antioch, which you see on this map. At this stage we will now march straight onto Antioch. Which we truely believe will be defended. The Bards have the Desolator town of Invictus underseige, and are tying up a vaste amount of the Desolation troops. With so many of the Desolation Army facing off against far greater numbers in the Bards and Horde Armies, they really can not have many, if any troops left back here for these cities. The bonus with Aquarius is that this is the city of their Horse resource. Which as you would be aware will not do them good to loose. Thank you for taking time to look over this option. Paddy of the Horde

	17-06-2005 04:43									#117
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And with the save.

quote: Great Lords of Babylon, The Horde is please beyond mere words to see the long line of your mighty Horse Regiments crossing the central areas. May your lads travel safe and swiftly, arriving well prepared for the upcoming events. Peace and happiness to you all Paddy of the Horde

	17-06-2005 06:30									#118
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Hehe, he sure knows how to butter us up

	17-06-2005 08:54									#119
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I think that BoH attacked A-M to get their GA started, while in Despotism.

I don't trust them and we should be ready to have at them good, what with their size 8 Cap and SoZ, I'm thinking that they want to really win too badly.

E_T

	17-06-2005 13:19									#120
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Winning is a long road to be travelled. Are BoH all bluff and bluster?