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Originally posted by E_T
I think that BoH attacked A-M to get their GA started, while in Despotism. |
For real? Not Nice!! Is this true? How to tell?
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Originally posted by E_T
I don't trust them and we should be ready to have at them good, what with their size 8 Cap and SoZ, I'm thinking that they want to really win too badly.
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The world is shaking.
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Beta
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Prowling in a PBEM near you!
Nov 2002
time: 00:33
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With the most recent save (1325bc):
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Greetings Great Lords of Babylon
I am sorry to not hear any word from you these past days... wow almost weeks.
The Blood Oath Horde are glad that we are allies and that we near the day when the Three Nation Alliance will deal the blows that caste Desolation Row off the island. Lord Beta, your initial words so long ago, along the lines of "this be the day that Desolation Row gets Voted off the Island - Survivor Style" are finally close to fruition.
My Commanders of the Red Guard General Staff, and the people of Red Guard Operations have looked to this time for a while now. All the manoeuvring, all the hassles with a certain other nation, yeah the Porkers, that have been put aside for another day, and here we are, all within a few short turns of some great victories. Joy and celebrations will certainly belong to the TNA when this is all completed.
I must admit that as hard as it was to extradite ourselves from the Porker war, in the long run, your words certainly have had greater wisdom. We have thus been able to concentrate greater forces and thus with all Three Nations we will have a greater victory against Desolation Row.
In other matters, I am happy to announce that we will have currency completed this next turn, and in the spirit of cooperation, we will be sending this along accepted. It is our hope that your fine people will be able to put this to use straight away, thus building your Nation to the Glory that is only becoming.
My Generals would like to coordinate with yours on the attacks, in this I have asked that Ambassador Plato be in contact with you. He will be your liaison with our Red Guard Operations people. At some stage hopefully we could get a chat between your Military Leaders and ours. Yet I understand you all must be very busy, as we have not even had another TNA Summit, nor even an email back to the few I scoot over from time to time.
Hope all is well and that Babylon grows strong and happy
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Beta
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Prowling in a PBEM near you!
Nov 2002
time: 00:33
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 Wow! Here is a response. And a bit of an over-reaction. Paddy may be into the merlot. Otherwise, we have certainly touched a raw nerve.
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Hello Lord Beta
Ahhh so are you the only person in all of Babylonia that has communications then?
An issue - the RoP agreement with A-M, not quite sure how this is an issue to you or your people. Happy to bring you up to speed. You and The Bards made many statements about the Horde being not commited to the war with Desolation Row, that the Horde were over committed, ok these may not be your exact words - happy to re-read all previous correspondence for your exact statements if you require it. So the Horde took the advice and secured peace with A-M so that the Three Nation Alliance could move on and secure the objective of Desolation Row.
Peace was made with A-M to keep you, Babylon, and the Bards happy at that time. At the beginning many of the Horde were not entirely convinced to this matter, yet when weighed up on the fact that DR would be removed, peace was sort with A-M. Only later did more of the Horde become converts, especially as the Bards Stack of Doom and the Horde Army Group East were tying up massive numbers of Desolation Row troops, and we could see Units of the Babylonian Horse moving to the war. Knowing that the guts of DR land had to be open for your forces.
You say I can appreciate your reasons for asking about the peace with A-M, actually no, I do not, at best you confuse me. How is it that a peace you asked for so so long ago, is now suddenly such an issue? This peace is certainly no new thing. Have you only just discovered it? Truely I find that hard to believe.
So what are you saying here Lord Beta? What underlies this message, that you are not going to attack DR? You were an major part of this entire matter.
What are you doing Babylon? You are a member of an alliance, the Three Nation Alliance. Stand straight, and join in the war you helped to start.
My people embrace your people in peace and happiness, we enjoy the fact you are there and we hope that you are growing prosperous. All the more reason to be sending you the technology of Currency accepted asap.
Interesting, actually you do not even mention Currency...! Why not? Should I question everything you do and do not say? Not a good alliance at all if that be the case.
On behalf of the Red Guard Operations (RGO), we would be interested in know where your "1st Babylonian Battle Patrol" is at the moment, thank you.
Hold True Babylon, Hold True and Desolation Row will be hurt bad.
Well I have written much here, compared to your few lines.
Be well, and may the Three Nation Alliance hold true,
Paddy
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Prowling in a PBEM near you!
Nov 2002
time: 00:33
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My response...
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Paddy..
Yes, it would appear that I am the only foreign affairs person in Babylon. We had some others involved earlier on, but they had an absence, I took over, and then I have not been around much the last few weeks. So again - my apologies for the lack of correspondence.
As to my note and your response ...woah my friend.
We were and are happy with the peace deal which was struck. But as stated earlier, and I stick by it, the TNA to us is more than just an anti-DR alliance. Thus we look to the future, and the geo-political situation post DR. Babylonian's were somewhat surprised by the ROP agreement with AM, and what it represented for the future. Hence my question. And in this light, a fair and legitimate question you have to agree.
Our troops still prepare for battle as discussed.
And to be honest - I do not know where the tech deals stand at this point in time. I have not had time to review them. My first job when I was back was to figure out what was going on with AM. But I can assume that if Klo has worked something out, we will stand by it.
Regards, and honour! ....Beta. |
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Originally posted by E_T
I smell a Rat. Paddy is acting as if he was a cockroach that just had the kitchen light turned on, by obscuring the actual reason.
It's interesting that he wants to know our Expiditionary Force's exact location.
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The case of allies knowing what each do in war is not bad. I don't see any reason why to not tell them. What else do you know to always be so negative? You are a builder? If the real dog of war unleashed at last, do they go blind folded? I read many here want the TNA, while we don't declare otherwise. The case you put up is that we are suffering as fools to Paddy and BoH. Are you a warrior?
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E_T
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Orlando, Florida
Mar 2001
time: 00:33
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I'm not saying that we are acting as fools or anything like that, but there is something going on that doesn't quite smell right.
And as for Paddy being reliable to alliances ad such, that is all well andgood, BUT, Paddy IS NOT BoH, he is a Member of that Team and their Leader but he still has to bow to the team's wishes. So you can't entirely take his past deeds to full heart.
And another thing, he did betray an alliance that I had with him, but because he was already the vassel of someone else. It was in the C3C Tourament game, with Bigfree (Dutch), Paddy (Japan), OPD (Korea) & me (Persia). I had come up with a tech deal, to get myself, OPD and Paddy into MA and leave Bigfree (the 900lbs gorilla in that game). BF was a treat to everyone, I had lost 2 pop very early to disease and OPD had taken over from Sir Ralph.
I had had several e-mail conversations with Paddy about the situation with BF, and the opertunity of all 3 ofus going against him,especially with BF moving troops towards OPD wasan opertunity for us to getan advantage over him and Eliminate him. It would have been long, it would have been bloody, but we would have succeeded. BF was behind in several techs and I had everything but Rep, Mon & Const. Paddy had everything but Rep, Mon & Currency. BF was several techs behind and I had been in a trade partnership with OPD for some time.
I had worked out a deal with Paddy to get all 3 of us into MA. We traded the techs, I got Feud as the free tech, and OPD did too. We then traded it back to Paddy (as part of the deal). OPD was backstabbed by the game, as he had a age change barb horde pop up right next to his Iron (which he was just about to connect and upgrade to help fight BF). And Paddy broke the deal by giving ALL of those techs to BF.
The Idea was to get far ahead of BF, enough that even with the much reduced tech costs, it would still give us plenty of time to all come at him. Keep him from getting his UU for as long as possible and all attack BF and take him down. Then, it would be just one more to be eliminated and that would be decided on later.
But it had turned out that Paddy was BF's Vassel. Now, you can say that he had an alliance already with BF, but then, he shouldn't have agreed to make the deal and NOT to pass on the techs.
So, yeah, I don't entirely trust him, especially when he might not be in full control of his teams desisions. I can still learn to trust him, but now when it seems that there is something that is being hidden.
E_T
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skrobism
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re: AM BOH ROP
BOH made it sound like BOH needed eyes in the field to watch AM. BOH made it sound like AM was occupied.
AM says BOH is withdrawing troops.
Since AM and BOH have an ROP, have BOH send us screenies of AM territory. Then we can watch the BOH withdrawl. BOH should have no problems sharing info with us a trusted ally.
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skrobism
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re: civchat
I like it. No one was there but I got in easily. I can do diplo talks anytime you need me to.
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skrobism
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Send him that screenie of our troops. Be nice. We are allies - for now.
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skrobism
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Is it possible that BOH is throwing nearly everything they have at this attack?
Right now I'm glad we did not cross the Hoard.
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