17-01-2002 03:09									#181
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos You can get a free C++ complier at http://www.borland.com/bcppbuilder/freecompiler/

I can't even cope with Delphi and can't see me learning C++

	17-01-2002 11:02									#182
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quote: Originally posted by Vonotar I can't even cope with Delphi and can't see me learning C++

Well, I can't Delphi either... but I can C++.

	18-01-2002 07:27									#183
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It's Ok.. I've cracked the language barrier... should have the thing up and ready for the end of the weekend as I'm finally getting to grips with Delphi!

Talking about languages, how many of you out there have seen/purchased foreign language versions of Civ3... are there translated versions or was that just my imagination... let me know, see usual contact details below....

Last edited by Vonotar on 03-03-2002 at 06:14

	18-01-2002 19:37									#184
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Hi!
The map is really accurate, but sometimes this causes worse gameplay.

In my opinion the British Isles are too small. Maybe add one or two land tiles in Scottland and make a land bridge to Ireland, because otherwise the English will fall back very, very soon (as you already noted), because they can only build two working cities. Ireland would make that three and an additional land tile would make them better. You can also make the Scottish highlands a little flatter (hills) for more settlement opportunities.

Norway: The Norwegians lived along the coast of Norway (and still do). The northern coast of Norway is full of mountains (which is geographically correct), but this makes it impossible to build cities there. You could place some grassland tiles north of the mountains and give them some fish & whales to be able to grow. This would make the geography of Norway less accurate, but would allow a historically more accurate settlement.

Corsica/Sardinia (the Islands west of Italy) definitely have no mountains that are higher than the ones in Italy. A more correct terrain would be hills in the north, plains in the south.

There are forests norht of the mountain range in northwestern Africa. Small ones, but you could add one or two.

The map you created is based on today's surface of the world. In the olden days Germany (for example) had way more forests than it does in you map. Caesar wrote about a vast area of forest expanding from the Rhine into Slovakia. In northern Mythology the "Myrkwid" (Mirkwood) was seen as the largest forest on Earth and was -guess where- in Germany.
North America and Russia had more forests, too.

Iceland: The tiles NW of the village has to be grassland. This area of Iceland is very fertile.

WOW! So much criticism. Sounds like I don't like your map. No! This is the best world map I have ever seen for any CIV game! Just great! I hope you accept my criticism as constructive and with good intentions. Great job!

CU

	19-01-2002 11:12									#185
	1.17 Released Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Version 1.17 Now Available

1.15 Added Pirogue For England, Rome & Japan
........Also increased cost of producing a settler
........Was released as a Beta patch, no installer

1.16 Added New Installation Program
........Rome AI set to build more ships
........Pirogue given it's own directory and a copy of Galley files
........Was released as a Beta install program
........Also added several bugs! oops!
........Would crash on Windows 9X Systems oops again!

1.17 Installation Program Fixed
........Tested on Windows 98 and Windows XP
........Civilopedia entry for Pirogue improved
........Russian city names corrected (my thanks to Vasiliy Beliaev)
........Civilopedia files now amended, rather than replaced


Before running the install program.....

If you have previously installed 1.16 delete the "Modpacks" folder inside your Civilization III folder...

If you have previously installed 1.13 delete the "Marlamap" folder inside your Civilization III folder...

This will be the last time I change the modpack layout (I promise!).


Suggestions are still welcome on this Map.

If you wish to provide any translations for the pirogue's civilopedia entry (I understand that there are *some* translated Civ3's out there) then please contact me.

I'm looking to help pull together a Europe mod next, i.e. I will take Joe Bloggs map, John Smiths spanish mod, Jack Jones polish mod etc.. etc.. etc.. and pull them together in one easy to install (if rather large) package. Yes I AM looking at a full set of graphics for each Civ. So if you have ideas on what I should be looking at then please contact me!


v1.17 - 252KB
removed after 59 downloads

See 1.17b Below

Last edited by Vonotar on 21-01-2002 at 01:48

	20-01-2002 08:02									#186
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is there any chance of uploading it to some site as the attachment doesnt work for 2 out of the 3 links to different versions i've tried in this thread

thank you

	20-01-2002 08:20									#187
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quote: Originally posted by Flight is there any chance of uploading it to some site as the attachment doesnt work for 2 out of the 3 links to different versions i've tried in this thread

Same files available from CivFanatics

You can read the documentation for 1.17 online here.

	21-01-2002 00:11									#188
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thanks, that worked (now that the forums are back up )

	21-01-2002 01:11									#189
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If you want to play with less then 16 civs in the correct locations you will need CPT v1.02 to be sure that they are placed on the right place.

Just replace the CPT.EXE that followed the map with the one that can be downloaded in my thread. (or wait until the installer is upgraded to contain it)

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=37749

	21-01-2002 01:44									#190
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos If you want to play with less then 16 civs in the correct locations you will need CPT v1.02 to be sure that they are placed on the right place.

Well I refuse to go up Another version number

attached below is version 1.17b which has the new version of CPT

Same comments apply as what I wrote for version 1.17

V1.17b 252Kb
Now at the top of this Thread

	21-01-2002 01:47									#191
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Upgrade only version for those with slow modems - 79KB

Attachment: 117b-upgrade.zip
This has been downloaded 42 time(s).

	21-01-2002 06:41									#192
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Great map! There is no other word for it. I had just a game as Egypt and enjoyed it very much!

Sorry, if that has already been reported, I lack the time to read the whole thread. But in the area south of the Sahara desert something was wrong with the rivers. Some tiles next to rivers did not allow irrigation, and some cities adjacent to a river needed to build an Aqueduct. How can this happen, or is it intended?

EDIT: I was using the 1.13 map. Maybe it has changed in 1.17.

	21-01-2002 08:32									#193
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Maybe I'm d/ling this wrong, but when Irename the attachment to a .zip, it tells me I have a fragment and it doesn't work. The one off Civfanatics says that it dropped files and is empty. Is this my fault, or the server's?

	21-01-2002 17:27									#194
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quote: Originally posted by MGamer07 Maybe I'm d/ling this wrong, but when Irename the attachment to a .zip, it tells me I have a fragment and it doesn't work. The one off Civfanatics says that it dropped files and is empty. Is this my fault, or the server's?

I have the same problem.

someone mentioned that there were problems for certain browsers but it worked for IE.

...However I am running IE (version: 5.00.3105.0106CO)

	21-01-2002 17:34									#195
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quote: Originally posted by Th0mas I have the same problem. someone mentioned that there were problems for certain browsers but it worked for IE. ...However I am running IE (version: 5.00.3105.0106CO)

Well I stand corrected...I was able to download from CivFanatics

...however can anyone tell me what is causing this problem on Apolyton...It has happend a number of times on different threads.

	21-01-2002 17:42									#196
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I have had problems too with downloading from Apolyton...the transfer doesn't complete! It gets to about 94% and then stops...thankfully civfanatics does also host everything that Apolyton has in the main -we may miss out some of the junk!

	21-01-2002 18:19									#197
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quote: Originally posted by Th0mas Well I stand corrected...I was able to download from CivFanatics ...however can anyone tell me what is causing this problem on Apolyton...It has happend a number of times on different threads.

apolyton jsut isnt the place it used to be !!!

	21-01-2002 19:44									#198
	Version 1.17b now on top of the thread !! Remove this text

Okay, Vonotar's version 1.17b is now on top of this thread.
It's also available on top of civfanatics thread since I've heard people got issues to download from Apolyton.

	21-01-2002 22:02									#199
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brilliant map, i strted a game as england yesterday but, being very impatient compared to a lot of peopleround here, I gave up on that one around 800AD with >1 minute turn waiting

So i go to start a new game with 6 civs and get the starting location problem, I come here and it has already been fixed, brilliant

thanks guys

	21-01-2002 23:04									#200
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quote: Originally posted by Flight brilliant map, i strted a game as england yesterday but, being very impatient compared to a lot of peopleround here, I gave up on that one around 800AD with >1 minute turn waiting So i go to start a new game with 6 civs and get the starting location problem, I come here and it has already been fixed, brilliant thanks guys

If I see a bug I squish it! I do try to respond quick.

quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph Great map! There is no other word for it. I had just a game as Egypt and enjoyed it very much! Sorry, if that has already been reported, I lack the time to read the whole thread. But in the area south of the Sahara desert something was wrong with the rivers. Some tiles next to rivers did not allow irrigation, and some cities adjacent to a river needed to build an Aqueduct. How can this happen, or is it intended?

This is a know problem with the game (not our fault!), perhaps it would be possible to make the rivers more accurate by editing the graphics for river's but I'm no artist.

	21-01-2002 23:11									#201
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quote: Originally posted by Vonotar If I see a bug I squish it! I do try to respond quick.

Hey, that was my bug.

	21-01-2002 23:23									#202
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos Hey, that was my bug.

See he admits it!

OK, it's your bug, so I immediately issued a patch consisting of your newer version CTP, therefore I squished the bug...

	21-01-2002 23:29									#203
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quote: Originally posted by Vonotar See he admits it! OK, it's your bug, so I immediately issued a patch consisting of your newer version CTP, therefore I squished the bug...

Well, I actually took time from writing on my Swedish project to figure out what was wrong and fix it fast.

	22-01-2002 21:57									#204
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WHEN I DOWNLOAD THIS MAP ,I ONLY GET AN ATTACHMENT
HOW DO I OPEN IT TO USE IN THE GAME?

	23-01-2002 17:32									#205
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quote: WHEN I DOWNLOAD THIS MAP ,I ONLY GET AN ATTACHMENT HOW DO I OPEN IT TO USE IN THE GAME?

Rename the file to "attachement.zip" and you should be able to unzip it.

I've heard it comes from apolyton, several files have this issue. When you will click on it after renaming it, you will just have to double click on the file inside the zip, it will ask where you civilization folder is located and everything will be easy.

	23-01-2002 18:24									#206
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sorry, this doesn*t work. I*ve got the same problem.

	23-01-2002 21:49									#207
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I'm mad !

Ok, I would then advise you to download it from civfanatics... but since civfanatics' forum is experiencing some troubles... you can't connect to it !

Hmm... well anyway, check "downloads" then "maps" in that site, who knows, maybe one day it will work again.

	23-01-2002 22:37									#208
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quote: Originally posted by Marla I'm mad ! Ok, I would then advise you to download it from civfanatics... but since civfanatics' forum is experiencing some troubles... you can't connect to it ! Hmm... well anyway, check "downloads" then "maps" in that site, who knows, maybe one day it will work again.

I've tried and failed to find another Forum where we can post the files... so in the meanwhile you can download 1.17b from the location below.

HOWEVER! as soon as CivFanatic's is back online I WILL REMOVE IT, while I can cope with the bandwidth having everybody download from my webspace will make it look like nobody is downloading from these forums... and to a certain extent the popularity of a map/scenario is measured by the number of downloads.

CivFanatic's is back online
Here

	23-01-2002 23:53									#209
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thanks a lot, boys

	24-01-2002 14:03									#210
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Civfanatics is back...has been for hours...

It is down less often than Apolyton usually...