09-08-2002 05:18									#391
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse So who is the father of this child?

Her husband.

You know, y'all have been some *******s towards tandee in this thread. Now, I've never really looked to kindly upon her because the way she says things can be really abrasive at times (and I happen to disagree with them frequently) but there was no call for Sneak's attacks ( sneak attacks . . . ). And Imran should have kept his suspicions to himself. (I don't mean his concerns about her husband possibly returning to Islam one day). But rather than assuming how things are between tandee and husband you might have asked.

Yeesh. Try to be a little more civil.

	09-08-2002 05:21									#392
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Well I know Connor is being chivalrous about this but I think its rather tacky of you to come here and talk about a baby fathered by someone else. Very poor form and bad taste on Connor's home turf.

Thank God you didn't marry a woman with such a lack of sensitivity for the feelings of others and poor judgement Connor

	09-08-2002 05:22									#393
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I like how you've drawn "y'all" so easily into your very being, connor.

And wtg in standing up to rude behavior.

	09-08-2002 05:25									#394
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quote: Well I know Connor is being chivalrous about this but I think its rather tacky of you to come here and talk about a baby fathered by someone else. Very poor form and bad taste on Connor's home turf. Thank God you didn't marry a woman with such a lack of sensitivity for the feelings of others and poor judgement Connor

I totally disagree. We didn't break up in some big messy argument with feelings of anger and hate like most people do. She moved away, we grew apart. I have no enimosity towards her, and I think that she's doing great in her life, and I wish her nothing but happieness with the choices she's made in her life. We've never been anything but friends since we broke up. Thanks for standing up for me and all, but really, it's not necessary.

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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand I like how you've drawn "y'all" so easily into your very being, connor. And wtg in standing up to rude behavior.

LOL, what can I say? It's always been a part of me I guess, deep down inside.

	09-08-2002 05:27									#396
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I've been disappointed by the level to which people who ought to know better have stooped to on this particular thread. I'm not going to get myself involved any further but I have sent a PM or two out concerning this thread.

Good day to you all.

	09-08-2002 05:27									#397
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Now, I've never really looked to kindly upon her because the way she says things can be really abrasive at times (and I happen to disagree with them frequently)

Ah, just because our most cherished opinions are diametrically opposed to one another, it doesn't mean we can't be friends, does it?

You're right though, I am abrasize. I think my personality doesn't transfer well to the computer. I think my strong opinions are more "cute" in real life, and I say biting things with a smile on my face that makes it hard to hate me. Or maybe I'm just a b*tch. Either way, I'm sorry to anyone I offend. :

	09-08-2002 05:29									#398
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I'd agree, tandee comes across much differently in real life than she does online.

She doesn't hesitate to voice her opinion, and that doesn't always go over well online.

	09-08-2002 05:30									#399
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I gotta tell you Tandee, out of all the decisions you will make for and about your son, this one will rank about 8,546th in importance. So ignore the others' angst, do what you want to do, and don't worry about it.

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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Well I know Connor is being chivalrous about this but I think its rather tacky of you to come here and talk about a baby fathered by someone else. Very poor form and bad taste on Connor's home turf.

Woah.... I happen to know Connor well enough and have enough respect for him to know that it doesn't bother him. He's far from sitting around moping, and I think you may have noticed that we are not only very good friends, but we are very good friends who are very open with each other and have no "forbidden subjects."

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quote: Originally posted by tandeetaylor Ah, just because our most cherished opinions are diametrically opposed to one another, it doesn't mean we can't be friends, does it?

I have many people I consider friends who will probably be on the opposite sides of the barricades one day. It was the combination of abrasive and ideological opponent. Made it feel like you were being disrespectful towards me. If it's not intentional, then I see no reason not to be friends.

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quote: Originally posted by tandeetaylor Woah.... I happen to know Connor well enough and have enough respect for him to know that it doesn't bother him. He's far from sitting around moping, and I think you may have noticed that we are not only very good friends, but we are very good friends who are very open with each other and have no "forbidden subjects."

What b*llshit. Tacky, tacky, tacky. You people should go on Jerry Springer.

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quote: Originally posted by JohnT I gotta tell you Tandee, out of all the decisions you will make for and about your son, this one will rank about 8,546th in importance. So ignore the others' angst, do what you want to do, and don't worry about it.

He doesn't say much, but when he does say it, he speaks with wisdom.

	09-08-2002 05:35									#404
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quote: Originally posted by tandeetaylor OK, I called, and the answer is..... It depends. If you have the priesthood, but have not been endowed, you would be disfellowshiped. However if you were adamant about not changing, it would go to disciplinary council, and depending on how adamant you were, you would be excommunicated. If you have been endowed, you would be excommunicated. If you were disfellowshipped and did not change, you would be excommunicated. So I was mostly wrong (unless you're endowed), but you aren't completely right either.

Seems like neither one of us was totally right OR totally wrong.

I knew a girl that was disfellowshipped for those reasons. But, of course, she doesn't hold the priesthood.

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quote: What b*llshit. Tacky, tacky, tacky. You people should go on Jerry Springer.

Well, have no concern AH. I can speak for myself, thank you very much.

	09-08-2002 05:35									#406
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quote: She doesn't hesitate to voice her opinion, and that doesn't always go over well online.

Well, I have to say that my opinion of Tandee (and yourself, Connor) has risen considerably over the course of this thread, whilst my opinion of Sneak has deteriorated infinitely. Imran, on the other hand, is a decent bloke with a lack of tact and personal experience affecting his opinion, and Horsie is still trolling, if in very bad taste.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara He doesn't say much, but when he does say it, he speaks with wisdom.

Awww. But will you say the same when we are on opposite sides of the barricades?

	09-08-2002 05:40									#408
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse What b*llshit. Tacky, tacky, tacky. You people should go on Jerry Springer.

When do you become this bitter shell of a poster? Now, I don't watch Jerry Springer, but I don't think it includes very many people who are open and logical about themselves and their relationships and who can retain great amounts of respect for former lovers, and, in fact, can still remain very good friends.... If you've never known anyone like that in real life, then I can understand, but if you have, then for shame.

And last but not least, Connor is a big boy and can take very good care of himself.

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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Seems like neither one of us was totally right OR totally wrong. I knew a girl that was disfellowshipped for those reasons. But, of course, she doesn't hold the priesthood.

Yes, he even mentioned that girls have a harder time of being excommunicated. They have to have an abortion or be disfellowshipped for a long time without repentance. Of course, if they have been endowed, this is a different matter.

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EiF: tact is for people that want to avoid telling what they think. People like me because I do say what is on my mind, and from tandee's statements it really did/does seem like she's not being good to her husband and she likes her men to be subservient. That's what I think, and I'm not afraid to say it.

	09-08-2002 05:44									#411
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Tact is for people who are concerned with the feelings and beliefs of others, Imran. It is for people who know better, who realize that words can and do hurt, and are capable of expressing their opinion without resorting to the bluntest weapon in their armory.

In short, it is for adults.

	09-08-2002 05:45									#412
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Being good to your partner isn't obeying their every wish...

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quote: being good to her husband and she likes her men to be subservient.

Not that it matters, but I wasn't subservient to tandee at all. Neither was she to me.

Perhaps you can't see it clearly, but I think her current relationship is much the same.

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quote: Originally posted by tandeetaylor And last but not least, Connor is a big boy and can take very good care of himself.

Yes he can - and he would do better without you in his life.

I suppose you dropped the "forsaking all others" part from your marriage vows?

Connor - wise up, cut your links with this woman. She's bad news.

Plenty more fish in the sea

	09-08-2002 05:48									#415
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lol, piss off, AH. Go troll some other threads.

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John: Then I hope I never become one . I have always been blunt.

ck: If you look at what she said about her husband, it was hard to say otherwise. Whenever they get into an argument she always wins? She is trying to make him use his brains? I'm sorry, but that indicates subservience of the man to me.

	09-08-2002 05:50									#417
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Heh-heh.

By the way Imran, how's the GF? Have you told your parents about her existence yet?

(you see, now that was tactless.)

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui ck: If you look at what she said about her husband, it was hard to say otherwise. Whenever they get into an argument she always wins? She is trying to make him use his brains? I'm sorry, but that indicates subservience of the man to me.

And why do you think she's keeping Connor in the picture?

Aaargh! Control freak! Tacky, tacky, tacky.

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Horse: LOL

John: Not yet. And I wonder, how would you have said that tactfully? Not that it bothers me or anything.

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I love philosophical debates......