14-01-2003 08:07									#331
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See the FA thread. And GS' response. Please note their comments about warriors and look-outs. They are OK with us taking up the southern positions of 1 and A. as previously agree to. Go for it.

	14-01-2003 12:59									#332
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ok I didn't get the map though. If you get a chance resend it.

	15-01-2003 04:02									#333
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will they be happy with 1 and A

I have the turn right now. And I will attempt to move them into those positions.

	15-01-2003 04:12									#334
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OK getting 1 and A is difficult right now because we are blocked. It would be nice to have 3 warriors to cover everything.

Right now I have the warrios in positions: 1 square SE of 2 and 1 square north of B.

I have screen shots as well.

	15-01-2003 08:29									#335
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Now let's see if GS moves out of our way....

	15-01-2003 08:56									#336
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Two warriors are plenty. They can see two tiles from the mountains. There are lots of combo's which work - 1 and A are still the best. There is also the asterix position of we only want to use one warrior. But I like two. Just in case.

I will send a quick note to GS to confirm we are trying to get them to the right positions, and in particular to confirm the one on the east coast.

I presume the worker is building a road. How about moving the other warrior on the chokepont back up to the voice and bringing the spearman down.

Diss - in one of the pbem threads you mentioned that you thought that the demo game was also playing at chieftan level. Can we confirm this. If so - we don't need troops for disorder control for a while.

Isn't it on the first screen after you start the game up. I can't recall.

	15-01-2003 13:29									#337
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see the misfits thread. Legoland confirmed they can go up to size 3 without any disorder.

I cannot verify this. It just shows Custom as the difficulty level. I can run a test to see if The Voice can get up to size 3. I'm sure they can. Actually I can't run a test. I have no idea how to do that without actually leaving our city ungarrisoned when it goes to size 3.

But I suspect they are correct. Because of this connecting the luxery isn't nearly as important. I still would like to improve some of our worked tile squares.

But in the meantime I suppose we can work a road south to the 4th city site. Any other ideas what to do with the worker?

And The voice will lose 1 turn of production waiting to become size 3. I'll check Millertown next turn, they might not make it to size 3 when the settler is ready.

	15-01-2003 15:35									#338
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I barely have any time starting from today and until next Thursday so I most likely wont be able to play any turns.

	15-01-2003 17:20									#339
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I would say the one turn loss is acceptable to get the settler out earlier.

I concur with the road south. We need to get the fourth settler to the southern city site as quickly as possible. see my chat map post above.

And I agree, Diss, we need to figure out how we fit another worker somewhere into the build queues. This will have to be your call. It is hard to match the shield and pop growth when you are not playing the game and can see the city screen.

	15-01-2003 20:59									#340
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I could be an ulternate for Eli

Jon Miller

	16-01-2003 04:17									#341
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I could probalby convert Millertown to a worker. I checked and it will be complete in 2 turns. 1 turn after we get our next turn. It grows to size 2 in 1 turn. I'm not sure when it will get to size 3, I'll find out when we get our next turn. It may take a while to get to size 3, if it does we can complete the worker. This of course would delay our fourth city though...

	16-01-2003 04:37									#342
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a worker sounds useful, a settler would be more so, how useful would a spearman be?

what is our max army size compared to our army size

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	16-01-2003 05:18									#343
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7 total. allowed is 8

	16-01-2003 05:49									#344
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hmm, we will have to watch our builds then

maybe barracks?

Jon Miller

	16-01-2003 06:55									#345
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If we can't pump out a settler, my vote goes for barracks.,,,nice to have veteran units

	16-01-2003 07:07									#346
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you guys are online. We will lose 3 turns waiting for a settler in Millertown. I can switch to worker and lose no shields and he'll be out next turn. That is my suggestion. Any thoughts?

	16-01-2003 07:24									#347
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Sounds good to me. The settler will then be placed next in the queue right?

	16-01-2003 07:25									#348
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yeah, but growth is kind of slow in that city. I suppose we can irrigate a square with the worker to speed up growth in millertown. although that probably won't work in despotism. hmm.

	16-01-2003 07:33									#349
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we can get more trade and stuff

we are sort of falling behind our neighbors techwise

Jon Miller

	16-01-2003 07:49									#350
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yeah I played around with the slider again. nothing seems to improve our tech rate.

OK worker in 1 turn. Settler in 5 turns. We are getting +5 gold/turn

which squares do we want to improve first?

	16-01-2003 07:55									#351
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I suggest linking up our 1 (one) luxury good.

	16-01-2003 08:04									#352
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I agree with the luxury - but not first. We don't need it for disoreder control just yet. And if none of the cities is using that tile right now, it will be wasted effort. We need production and gold. I suggest:

1. mine the two road grassland tiles between Miller Town and The Voice. Will provide a shield each.

2. Road the shielded grass land square north of the capitol, and then the cows square. Extra gold

3. Assess then whether we mine those same two squares next, or connect the luxury.

4. A longer term goal should be an irrigation project from the lake, through the plains squares, down to Chokepoint City, or Elipolis, or whatever we are going to call it. Elipolis is sort of appropriate.

	16-01-2003 08:07									#353
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And yes - barracks sometime - but we need settlers. And we need that wheat-fish city to pump out food and settlers/workers.

Sorry I haven't done much F/A stuff either. Home late again tonight. Not much time. Will have more tomorrow.

	16-01-2003 08:13									#354
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Diss and Jon - are you OK with the green hours on the timecounter with Eli out of the picture for awhile - or do you want to change them. Diss has been playing most of the turns, and it seems to be working. But thought I would ask.

Jon - everything OK with Eli?

	16-01-2003 08:16									#355
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Fourth post in a row - sorry - I'm tired. If I was voting between the fourth city earlier - or a worker - I vote for the city. We need to start claiming some of that land south of the chokepoint.

If GS has good food squares, we will not be able to out-rex them - so I say get the southern cities in asap, and we can work on improvements and middle cities after.

'night.

	16-01-2003 08:35									#356
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I agree on the need for cities

Jon Miller

	16-01-2003 09:28									#357
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green hours? not sure what that means.

	16-01-2003 09:36									#358
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here's the thing. Right now we are using the game squares which are getting 2 food and 2 shields and 1 arrow for the roaded one. The Voice uses the cows as well. I was thinking of getting irrigation up there which should increase food supply. This would allow the city to hit size 3 earlier. This is our best bet for a settler producing city until another one comes online.

Miller Town we can't do much with in despotism. Right now the city is working the game square and the lake square (for the extra commerce). This will of course change next turn to just the game square. There isn't much we can do to get this city to grow faster. This city is more of a production city rather than a settler city. When we need to we can use this city to produce military units.

Last edited by Dis on 16-01-2003 at 09:48

	16-01-2003 09:56									#359
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so barracks in that city?

Jon Miller

	16-01-2003 12:06									#360
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I was thinking about that. Hate to pay maintenance on it before we need it though. Depends on how quickly we want to churn out troops I guess. Next turn I'll try to figure out the time to build a settler and grow to size 3 for Millertown.