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@rmsharpe:

Old chap, this is cool & essential info - if you have more, fire at will!

Yer help is always appreciated!

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Changes carried out!

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Curt, old chap, just 1 initial question:

* Is there some civ like the Central Powers? If yes, why Trieste is Italian and Budapest Ottoman?

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And now for the nit-picking:

* Casablanca, Dakar and Oran were French too.

* Luanda was Portuguese if I recall correct.

* Djibouti was French, Mogadishu Italian.

* Mecca, Medina, Jerusalem, Damascus, Beirut, Baghdad, Basra were Ottoman.

* Bangkok was independent, Singapore and Brunei British.

* While Brussels is fine as Allied city, Amsterdam should ne neutral, like the Dutch colonies in Indonesia (Padang, Batavia, Bandjarmasin)

* Rabaul was German!

* Wellington is misplaced, it should be at 251, 177!

* Formosa should be Japanese too; I suggest your rename Okinawa to Nara.

* Korea was Japanese too. Wonsan and Masan would be better renamed to Seoul and Pyongyang.

* Honolulu is on the wrong island. Try 13, 99 instead!

* Monterrey should be at 59, 91 imho.

* You should do something about Floria, it looks a bit odd.

* Why is Georgetown in the middle of nowhere larger than Pittsburgh?

* Porto Alegre and San Iulian are too large I think.

* Finland looks odd too, and Petrograd is misplaced too.

That´s it for the moment. Sorry for adding such a long list.

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Steph is right dude; Trieste was promised to Italy by the Entente for their entry to the war.

And Athens at that time was the largest city in Greece but not that large. It had a pop of 250.000 and thessalonica had 160.000. Ideally athens should be a 4, thessalonica a 3 and Heraklion a 1.

Moreover thessalonica was a MAJOR balkan trade centre, practically the most prized city in the balkan chersonese. Put in trade routes with Constantinople and other Turkish cities.

Same goes for Izmir.

And why is iraklion not Greek dude? It was unified with the motherland in 1907.

and a last thing: Don't know what your hapiness improvements will be BUT if you happen to have a mosque as one be sure to add one n thessalonica. Also if there is such a thing as a christian temple add one in izmir, constantinople and trapezous. Just a thought.
Now that i mentioned it i think that the ottoman style should be more distinct-more arabic and islamic looking. Just my opinion here.

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BTw i think you could do without Copenhagen and Heraklion(iraklion).

oh and IMHO athens should have barracks while most Ottoman cities shouldn't. It so happened that the turkish army was not that well trained while the Greek army certainly was. I just thought that you could represent the quality inferiority of the ottomans by that.

And CERTAINLY add marketplace and perhaps bank improvements in thessalonica-as said it was a MAJOR trade centre.Oh and add harbor improvements in the greek cities.

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Excellent stuff guys!

I will carry out these changes right away!
Updated map underway!

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Curt, old chap, just 1 initial question:

* Is there some civ like the Central Powers? If yes, why Trieste is Italian and Budapest Ottoman?


Don't worry, these are just leftovers from changing the civs!

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Minneapolis is too far north, I'd move it down a space.

Monrovia is closer to the coast of the Atlantic than where it's at, I'd move it a space to the left.

Budapest and Trieste were owned by the Austrians at the start of the war.

Ireland, of course, was still part of Britain.

The Baltics were not independent at the start of WWI, so Riga and Tallinn should be owned by the Russians.

Hanoi and Saigon were French colonies, they should be owned by the allies. Bangkok though was independent.

Salisbury needs to be moved again (remember the diagram before?)

The Sudan was owned by the Brits.

Kigali borders Lake Victoria and should be at (149, 129)

Windhoek was German and Bloemfontein was British.

Malta (Valetta) is British, not Italian.

Ethiopia was independent.

That's about all for now. If I see anything else, you'll be the first to know.

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Cool - some of these are fixed already, but I will add what needs to be changed!

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And this is what I'd make Korea look like, though I'm uncertain of how much influence Pyongyang actually had prior to the split of Korea...

Attachment: korea.gif
This has been downloaded 122 time(s).

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I might keep Wonsan - and implement Seoul -

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Sounds like your just putting the finishing touches on this one Curt. Can't wait.

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Hey there!

Yep!

Today I have added the events for the Bolshevik, Jihadist and Easter uprisings!

I hope to have it ready this week!

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good city sizes

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Is that the sound of many Prussian and Saxon troops I hear approaching?

Yep!

Kaiser gets out tonight, or early tommorow, depending on your timezone!

All sounds done, text made and units placed:

I am just doing some last-minute checks,
upload it to some server space, then it is playtest time!

Have your gas mask ready!

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I am ecstatic.

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ah... i can almost hear the mortar bangs now...

wait, that's my Vauxhall.

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Playtest version is now up!
Here is the link that has been so long in the making!

http://cdgroup.org/forums/tbs/civ2/...p?p=15822#15822

Enjoy, and let me know of any huge bugs! (or small ones)

Now I am off for some shuteye - I will check back in about 10 hours - cheers!

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Valetta has been owned by the British since 1800. You should know more about your own past, Curt

Finland didn't exist yet, so Helsinki should be owned by the Russians.

Denmark was neutral during the war, so Copenhagen should be owned by the free nations. Reykjavik and Fredrikshavn, too.

I don't recall any particular rebellions in Saigon or Padang at the time, so Saigon should be Entente and Padang, Batavia, and Bandjarmasin (all Dutch) should be free nations.

Seoul is off a square, I'd move it back to (218, 78.)

Nepal was a British protectorate, so Kathmandu should be owned by the Entente.

Aden was a British protectorate,

Dijbouti was a French protectorate, so they should be Entente too.

Hope I'm not being too nitpicky, but I can't say I care for the commercial squares...they just don't seem to fit with the rest of the terrain. The black 2D factories just don't cut it.

Germany captured Qingdao in 1877, so that should be owned by the Central Powers. The Japanese captured it in 1914 after they declared war.

If Belgium is an Entente power, why are Kigali and Kigoma free?

How about getting rid of Kaduna and putting Lome (German) in?

Okay, done whining.

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Japan did not enter the war until 1917/8, so an alliance with the allies is unrealistic in 1914. The Italians offered me Anti-Central Propaganda, which I really do not need. YOu had that fixed in a previous scenario.

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@rmsharpe:
These comments are the reason I post playtests, you are doing your job! Appreciated

PS
Damn! I forgot about Valetta!


@GoPostal:
I will downgrade their relation to peace - but after Aug 1914, anything goes in this scen!

Aha! I forgot to apply the no,no preqs - not a worry.

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I will make these changes ASAP!

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Also, I believe the Russian flag was similar to that of Scotland, with the colours switched, and a lighter blue.

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That was the Napoleonic model of the flag, I think.

It is the Tzarist national flag I am using...

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Japan entered the war in 1914 with the attack of "Kiautschou" or "Qingdao" - like rmsharpe wrote.
So from August 1914 Japan should be allied with the Entende.

Informations about the "German city on the yellow sea":

1914 August 15th a Japanese ultimatum, valid 24 hours, to hand over Tsingtau without resistance, remains unanswered. 4800 defenders face a superior force of 65,000 men. On August 23rd, Captain at Sea Meyer Waldeckcables to his Majesty, "Promise we will fulfill our duty to the last moment".
August 27th blockade by British and Japanese ships begins]
September 2nd 1st landing of 2000 British and 2300 Japanese troops
September 26th and 27th British and Japanese troops attack, suffer heavy losses; the attempt to take the fortress fails.
September 28th the colony is taken under siege from the land side, too.
Early October the German garrison resists with determination. The Pilot of Tsingtau, Lt. Plueschow, is extraordinarily valiant, flies bombing attacks against Japanese ships.
October 17th German torpedo boat S 90, commanded by Cpt. Lt. Brunner, breaks through the blockade and sinks Japanese cruiser Takatschio.
from October 29th Kiautschou area taken under artillery fire from land and sea for 9 consecutive days.
October 31st on the occasion of their Emperor's birthday the Japanese try to take the fortress by storm, in vain
November 7 the German defenders run out of ammunition and surrender. The German warships and the Austro-Hungarian cruiser "Kaiserin Elisabeth" are sunk by their own crews. The fortress surrenders under honourable conditions. The garrison is transported to P.O.W. camps in Japan, where they stay for 5 years.


http://www.deutsche-schutzgebiete.d...hou-english.htm

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Thanks skipper!

I will make an event out of this!

Looks like the Japanese are at war from turn one, then!

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NEW ZIP READY FOR PLAYING!

Many bugs and small details fixed!

http://cdgroup.org/forums/tbs/civ2/...p?p=15822#15822

Enjoy, and tell me what you think!

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>that link does not work

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It looks like Poly chops up longer URLs, so just piece that together in your address bar.

 
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