15-04-2004 16:55									#331
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york All above board as usual then I see. Excellent.

Naturally.

	15-04-2004 18:43									#332
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Btw BG cost me £3, though it hasn't arrived yet. I wont get around to it for a while, since the new TFT patch is coming and I'll probably play that for a bit.

thats less than $5 US, right? thats even better than my bargain bin hunting.

	15-04-2004 18:45									#333
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It was second hand though.

	15-04-2004 18:47									#334
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Wand of Monster Summoning is the business If you think its getting empty, sell it, and buy/steal it back for a full recharge.

would you like Swiss, American or Provolone with your wand, sir?

	15-04-2004 18:49									#335
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Yeah, for reasons that we wont go into here I already had ToSC, so I went for a cheap copy of BG alone.

Well at least you BOUGHT SOMETHING, so you contributed, however indirectly, to the game industry/economy. Better than some.

	15-04-2004 18:50									#336
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike It was second hand though.

Believe me, i looked for BG second hand. Never found any flavor of BG, used or new, for that low. Of course i didnt try Ebay.

	15-04-2004 19:17									#337
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quote: Will Dynaheir automatically get Fireball when she gets to level 4? It's not that far off, so I'm thinking of just noodling around so I can get her the experience required, before going off to fight nasty things. I bought Fire Missile (I think that's what it's called) from Thalantyr, all thanks to my lovely heroic discount. Trouble is, it won't let me write it into her spellbook yet. Don't know why, because she's already got one level 3 spell in there, although she can't actually cast it yet.

You get no spells automatically when you level up... and you need to be level 5 to cast Fireball, Fire Arrows etc...

Well worth waiting for, however.

-Jam

	15-04-2004 19:35									#338
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Well at least you BOUGHT SOMETHING, so you contributed, however indirectly, to the game industry/economy. Better than some.

I'm not sure who are you implying, but yeah, I buy lots of games. I am often cautious though, so I'm no angel in that I do often 'test' games.

	15-04-2004 19:36									#339
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Believe me, i looked for BG second hand. Never found any flavor of BG, used or new, for that low. Of course i didnt try Ebay.

Why not? Here in the UK there are loads of copies on there, all going cheap. If you pick someone with good feedback it isn't really even much of a risk.

	15-04-2004 19:44									#340
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Level 5!

I'm going to have to really find some interesting things to kill to get my levels up. I heard someone mention basilisks before. Will they get me tonnes of exp? What about sirens? I'm still not sure whether to start off going east or west. Which do you think would be easier for a party of 5 level 4 characters and 1 level 3 enchantress? (Actually, I think she's an evoker, but hell )

	15-04-2004 19:46									#341
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Both Basilisks and sirenes are killable at level 3, and give tons of XP and loot.

You're silly NOT to go and kill them.

-Jam

	15-04-2004 19:49									#342
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Is that a vote for east or west?

	15-04-2004 19:55									#343
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Sirens - think seashore.

Basilisks - think not seashore.

	15-04-2004 20:04									#344
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Thanks for that political punditry in this terribly tense election Stuie.
I may well get my swingometer out later, as the votes continue to pour in. East or West? East or West? East or West? East or West? East or West? East or West?
Aarrggghhhhh!

	15-04-2004 20:42									#345
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Why not? Here in the UK there are loads of copies on there, all going cheap. If you pick someone with good feedback it isn't really even much of a risk.

I like to support my local games stores/bargain bins, as long as they have stuff I like. And I just like going in, looking around, and buying something. I mean who needs delayed gratification when youre spending less than $10 US on a game? Also im an old luddite who hardly ever buys anything online. I did buy a book (for a friend out of town, so i thought heck, im gonna be shipping the thing ANYWAY) on Amazon, so I may start using them. EBay I need to think about some more.

	15-04-2004 23:48									#346
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incredible, now that i have tons of time on my hands (but not for long ) I haven't played a single minute of my BG2 game..

It's the fact that I know the whole story and what's going to happen (up till the underdark) that spoils it a bit for me. the magic is gone somehow

	16-04-2004 04:02									#347
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Sorry, but you'll thank me for this later...

* Jamski gives Trajanus a kick in his butt *

GO AND PLAY MAN!

-Jam

	16-04-2004 13:02									#348
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I played some more last night.
I found a new friend (with what looked like a major gout problem ) and he kicked serious basilisk bottom. I killed the sorceror who was creating the basilisks and got loads of good things (that I remembered while walking to work this morning that I just pocketed and have forgotten to look through/decide what to sell or keep), though I had to take a decent number of stone/flesh scrolls to save my characters. It's a bit of a pain that you have to talk to them again once you've destoned them, but if they're not in your party then they can't earn exp - which means lots more for everyone else, and in particular Dynaheir. She's now at level 4, as are most of the party, though some are at level 5 now. I think that Imoen is at 5, and er, someone else. Jaheira is at 5 and 4 or something weird. Although I got hatloads of exp for killing the greater basilisk in this area, and have found that using the summoning wand give you a great chance of killing them without having your characters turned to stone (if they can't see you because of the horde of gnolls engulfing them - who never get turned to stone, strangely enough - then they can't hurt you, and you can arrow them into the next world ), I think I shan't spend too much time here because it gets expensive having to use stone/flesh scrolls all the time, and then heal the characters back from practically no HP. Should I go north, south or towards the coast now?

	16-04-2004 15:48									#349
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dude, use protection of petrification scrolls and you won't need stone to flesh spells/scrolls

you can buy em in any temple

	16-04-2004 15:58									#350
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Oh. Erm, oops.

You do get a lot of exp for killing basillylisks so maybe I'll call back that way.

	16-04-2004 16:03									#351
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york Should I go north, south or towards the coast now?

I don't remember every details of BG1, but I think somewhere in the south, there is a bridge with cool treasures.
IIRC the basiliks area is in the upper far right corner of the general map. The bridge is in the middle far right side.

	16-04-2004 16:11									#352
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Against petrification, I remember having summoned something. I think it was an undead (or maybe some invisible stalker?!?!).
No, no, wait... there is a friendly undead somewhere a wight or gost or ... ?
Take him with you, put him in front of the basilik (avoid contact) and attack from the side (and/or with missiles).
Try to keep him alive.
I remember it was possible to kill all the basiliks and to keep the guy alive.

	16-04-2004 16:32									#353
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Cheers Dry, but I've already done the basilisk area. The shield I used was a tame ghoul. He's immune to petrification, but I discovered that so are the summoned creatures, so he's not absolutely necessary.

The basilisks are to the middle right of the map, so I'm not sure which bridge you are referring to. I'll probably visit Ulcaster next, because there's some ruins I've been meaning to pop into, and then toddle around the rest of the southeast areas I haven't uncovered yet. If I spot any more wolves in passing through the area to the SW of Nashkel, then I may hang around and kill them to gte the money for decent weapons and spells.

	16-04-2004 16:37									#354
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Jamski - I didn't notice Fireball on Thalantyr's list!
If I don't get it automatically then where can I find it? I want to burn stuff (especially my party members )!

	16-04-2004 17:53									#355
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Hem, I did a small search on the net and, it's normal you don't see the bridge it is ... well, go visit Ulcaster first.

	16-04-2004 21:06									#356
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york If I'd been an evil character, then I'd have dearly loved to kill the wizard, leg it, and then return for his magic items once the jellies had buggered off. Is this possible?

It is, and as he's evil, I do it always. You have to pick the right options and he attacks you, or try and backstab him.

	16-04-2004 21:07									#357
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york Will Dynaheir automatically get Fireball when she gets to level 4?

No, you'll need to buy the scroll and learn it. Also, you need to be level 5 to cast level 3 spells.

quote: Originally posted by duke o' york Trouble is, it won't let me write it into her spellbook yet.

Don't know why, because she's already got one level 3 spell in there, although she can't actually cast it yet.
She's an Invoker, so cannot learn Enchantment spells (also another school IIRC).

	16-04-2004 21:10									#358
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york Should I go north, south or towards the coast now?

South you won't go back to, West is interesting, North is good, but you'll do it eventually either way.

	17-04-2004 03:28									#359
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quote: Jamski - I didn't notice Fireball on Thalantyr's list! If I don't get it automatically then where can I find it? I want to burn stuff (especially my party members

Becuase its so good, you'll have to wait untill much later in the game to use it.

HOWEVER. Skull Trap is the same level and does the same damage, and can be "placed" before a fight. Smaller area also means less chance of toasting Minsc

-Jam

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Mmmmm..... toasted Minsc.
I'd like mine medium rare, how will you be having yours Jamski?

I played a good deal on Saturday evening because my girlfriend went out. I finished the Ulcaster school, and managed to kill jellies, as well as many hundreds of wolves of all sizes. I killed a halfling in Gullykin for looking at me funny, and he gave me a secret door into some dungeon with an Ogre mage there. He didn't last long. I got some great stuff from his pulverised body, but didn't hang around because I needed a rest and some healing. I'll go back in after I've been to the inn. I caught about 8 winter wolves, and blew lots of money on Shadow armour for Imoen, just because it looks really cool. Dumb thing to do really, but I'm not bothered. I can always kill more winter wolves if necessary.