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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
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1) NATO surrounds Russia and it's a plain fact.
2) For Japan frontier with Russia is western, for Russia it's eastern, learn some geography instead of guessing.
3) So, it means you are allowed to corrupt our national hymn into insulting song? It considers as crime here you know- an attack against state's symbol? You could be pretty much ****ed for such jokes. Yeah, yeah, I know I live in the police state. Try to corrupt American hymn in such way somewhere in US, and you'll find yourself ****ed up as well, I guess.
4) Think whatever you wish.
5) Not only Russians says so. Never heard about Nitzshe and his- everything that doesn't kill me, makes me stronger?
But Russians are worldwide champions in getting their crap toghether.
Last edited by Serb on 05-09-2004 at 19:26
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
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Barbarians.
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
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I don't think Roseanne will ever be asked to sing the anthem again. Do you? |
He/she also screwed up your anthem, like muxec did with Russian anthem, I mean by changing the meaning of it to blah...blah... our country sucks, f*ck this, f*ck that, our country sucks...blah...blah...blah... f*ck it...balh...blah... and so on?
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Dixie
Oct 2000
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Oh come on, I read western news sites, and most of them portray situation like- small, but proud people being opressed by evil imperialist Russians. I don't remeber your reaction to invasion of this proud and honarable people to Dagestan. |
I don't think I even commented on it because I saw it as just another example of the people there killing each other.
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Sure I see. Chechens and Russians are enemies and always were enemies. It started centuries ago. We are too different, our cultures are different, our morales are different, our religions are different, we are simply plain different. |
Then perhaps maybe it's time to rid yourselves of the garbage that chechnya is. It's a drain and will always be a source of pain. If they use their independence as a way to shelter terrorism you can always use that as an excuse to destroy them every time they step out of line but with the added benifit of not having to be responsible for their control. Let them go their own way to their ruin if that is what is meant to be. But don't be prideful and invite your own ruin and pain. It really is that simple
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Most of you believes that Russians are the worsest ****ers ever walked this planef and can't imagine that someone could be worse. I've never made statements like this before, because it's pretty stupid to offence entire people, but Chechens have a very long history of violence. They were damn cruel and violent since the beggining.
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I actually think Russia has come a long way since the SU. It has a lot of liabilities from that era that still plague it but considering where thing stood 20 years ago, they have come a long way. Empires are costly and usually carry the seeds of the countries own destruction. Western nations proved that a long time ago. My advice, however humble, is to drop the notion of that and let them go. Let them bring about their ruin instead of yours. If they attack you then you have every right to go in there and smash them to piecies. .
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the source of their heatred- becuse their Russians against whom they fought for centuries and who did many bad things to them. The source of Russian hatred- becuase they are Chechens whom their fought for centuries and who did many bad things to them. |
Then step out of that cycle. If the chechens can't adapt to the modern world then they go the way of other people who could not as well. Don't try to bring civilization to a people who aren't ready for it.
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I don't think Russia will turn Chechnya into glass. It would be pretty stupid, just a punishing raid. And punishing raids do not solve the problem, they create new problems. What we need is to increase our security inside the country, perhaps by price of some freedoms, anyhow. I don't care how, but this shouldn't happen again. Also we had to find all those f*ckers and kill them, all terrorists, all their camps, no matter where, if will find some camps in Quatar or anywhere else we should press their government to bomb their camps to the ground or Russian forces under UN banner would do it. I guess we should go to UN with new kind of global anti-terrorist threaty. All countries should destroy terrorist camps on their territory, otherwise terrorism will never die. Those vahhabites would migrate from one country to another and still attack over and over again. |
The problem of terrorism is never going to go away. All the bombs in the US and Russia are not going to solve the problem by themselves. As long as the general muslim population does not actively resist terrorism all our nations can hope to do is keep them off balance.  I've lost some really close friends to those kinds people and it hurts and it makes me angry at the kind of people who can walk up to someone and blow themselves up not only killling military personal but civilians that just happen to get in the way. But it does no good to simply put more men on the ground. Sometimes I honestly question how it can ever be stoped.
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And I of course just be called an imperial Russian nazi, who says that Chechen people are evil and Russians are good.
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no your not. Your just angry and upset as you have every right to be. As does the Russian people. Action must be taken. But it needs to be more than just a raid or killing a few terrorist.
I'm not doing this to troll or to make anyone upset.
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Dr Strangelove
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There are still too many places for them to hide. Pressure has to brought upon the people who hide them.
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of Ice Cream
Mar 2000
time: 23:24
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Cleric supports targeting children
By Rajeev Syal
(Filed: 05/09/2004)
An extremist Islamic cleric based in Britain said yesterday that he would support hostage-taking at British schools if carried out by terrorists with a just cause.
Omar Bakri Mohammed, the spiritual leader of the extremist sect al-Muhajiroun, said that holding women and children hostage would be a reasonable course of action for a Muslim who has suffered under British rule.
In an interview with The Sunday Telegraph, Mr Mohammed said: "If an Iraqi Muslim carried out an attack like that in Britain, it would be justified because Britain has carried out acts of terrorism in Iraq.
"As long as the Iraqi did not deliberately kill women and children, and they were killed in the crossfire, that would be okay."
Mr Mohammed, 44, who lives in Edmonton, north London, but is originally from Syria, also claimed that the Chechen rebels were not responsible for the deaths of more than 350 people - at least half of them children - who are so far known to have died in Beslan.
"The Mujahideen [Chechen rebels] would not have wanted to kill those people, because it is strictly forbidden as a Muslim to deliberately kill women and children. It is the fault of the Russians," he said.
The father of seven came to Britain in 1985 after being deported from Saudi Arabia because of his membership of a banned group. He has since been given leave by the Home Office to remain in Britain for five years but the Government is reviewing his status.
He gave an interview yesterday to promote a "celebratory" conference in London next Saturday to commemorate the third anniversary of the September 11 attacks.
Andrew Dismore, the Labour MP for Hendon, was infuriated by Mr Mohammed's comments. "That sounds to me like incitement and I will report him to Scotland Yard," he said. "It is an insult to most moderate Muslims, who are sick of people like this claiming to represent them."
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...05/wosse705.xml
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Ben Kenobi
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McGregornobi!
Oct 2002
time: 21:24
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Strangely, it's not the only example of such arguementation I've heard. Christians often say: if he's done that, he's not a Christian. Here, it is "they couldn't have don that, because the rules forbid that". Like if the moral rules of Christians allowed such stuff. What can be said is that that they did that doesn;'t mean the rules allow that. But such arguementation is dumb and arogant
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Why is it arrogant on the part of the Christians? Unlike the Muslims here, they do not try to blame the victims, rather they insist that the person who committed the crimes, stand up to his punishments.
And oftentimes, we hear atrocities, where people try to make the connection to Christianity, where that is just not the case.
Yes, Christians can commit these crimes, but more often then not, when Christians are implicated, that connection is shown to be false.
Finally, in saying the man is not a Christian, it is a way to shun him. The Muslim community ought to shun their terrorists, but rather than doing that the Muslims prefer to blame the victim.
That's why I'm disgusted by their equivocation, and I think the Christians have it right to expel the immoral brothers from their midst.
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Good news. One of the attackers may have been caught alive. Perhaps we'll soon know more about the people who did this.
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