24-03-2004 01:11									#211
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To Arrian:

quote: Arrian, Our stack is currently at FS3, one move away. The FS2 plan is a fairly new development, courtesy of DaveMcW. Bombardment should commence in 350 BC. We'll keep you updated as to the whim of the Almighty (RNG ) after that, and give the signal as soon as is feasible. You're right, the primary goal is to get those walls down, then knock the big mean gorillas down a notch or two before sounding the bugle. If we catch a barracks in there, all the better. Solomwi

	25-03-2004 12:58									#212
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From Unothodox:

quote: Greetings, I must be brief, I'm afraid. I trust that Arrian has been passing along the information from this side of the water? I have been speculating with Arrian on the possibility of a tech alliance amongst the three of us. Would Python be agreeable to such a proposal? Also, if you for some reason do not recieve a complete map from CoD, let us know and we will happily forward one to you as well. - UnOrthOdOx

	25-03-2004 13:02									#213
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To Uno:

quote: UnOrthoOdOx, My sincere apoligies for not replying sooner. I was on a vacation in Kansas, as you may now, and had no time to reply to your message earler. I do need to talk to Arrian and your team members about the specifics, but I think we're all in general agreement that a research alliance amonst our three nations is a great idea. Perhaps a three-way chat could be arranged to work out the details. And, thank you, we do have a CoD map on hand. Thanks. ~Octavian X

	27-03-2004 04:28									#214
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To Arrian:

quote: Arrian, I've returned from my little break. There are two issues I wish to address soon: First of all, our upcoming invasion. I've already played the turn, but ran out of time to send it (right now, I'm using a public computer - I'll send it off soon). Long story short, our stack of doom is at Fort Siamang2, as we had planned. How should we coordinate the attack? This is the plan I was thinking about only having our own cats and horses attack on Turn 111, saving our swords. We'd then let, if all goes well, CoD to take the city, since you guys are in a better position to hold it for the time being. Second, we need to talk research. I've already been contacted by Unorthodox, and he's expressed Tabejin's willingness to cooperate as a tech partner. The only question that remains is how the work will be divided. IIRC, we're working on Monotheism with a scientist. Should be done in 37 turns. What may work out best is Monty Python's funding of the research efforts of both CoD and Tabemono. To better plan this out, though, I'd like to try to hold something like an international summit, a chat, between ourselves, CoD, and Tabemono. That, of course, would be pending further discussion. ~Octavian X

	29-03-2004 12:28									#215
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You guys should know about this...

I used the fortify all trick with some horses to fortify our giant stack of slow movers, mostly as a qucik convience, knowing it doesn't affect the game. Beta and I had a few back and forth e-mails, and I ended up replaying the save w/o the fortify all trick. They decided to use the first one.

In their response, they seem to claim a victory on their part at FS2. We'll have to wait and see...

	30-03-2004 10:43									#216
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quote: Octavian, Cort Haus has played T110 - 370bc for us, and if I'm following the turn notes correctly, almost every horseman we have is in position to strike FS next turn (T111, 350bc) if that's what you want us to do. I would suggest that you see how the bombardment goes before deciding which forces you do and do not commit to battle. For instance, if you get any Numidians down to 2hp, I'd hit that with a sword, not a horse, since if the horse manages to take off 1hp, but no more, it will not be able to retreat and will die. That's a fairly likely outcome, actually, given the defense strength of fortified numidians versus the attack power of horsemen. The best case scenario, I think, is for horsemen to knock of a hp or two and run away, and then your swords can finish. If you want CoD to take the town, that's fine, but since all we have is horsemen (I understand that our 1 sword was moved east to take out that barb camp), please make sure there isn't much defense left. Also understand that Monkey moves in between us, so their units will have a chance to heal before CoD can strike. FYI: Cort Haus noted when he played our turn that there are six veteran numidians + a settler at Orangutan 8. Once we take out FS, I think they will build a new fort town and we will have to do this all over again. Regarding technology: I think the best thing would be for one team to provide funds for the other two to research faster. If all sides are willing, I think we should disclose our research power (beaker output at the highest it can go) and cash power (max tax output). Then we pick the two best researchers, and have the 3rd team contribute gold. I suspect that Python may be the gold contributor, but I'm not sure of that. I'm rarely around for chats, but if you would like to try and set one up, I think we can try and make it. I can get online from home for a chat during weekdays from about 7pm to 10pm eastern time, though once a week I have sports after work (this week, it's wednesday). Weekends are big fat question marks... sometimes I can be around all day, and others, like this coming weekend, I'm not anywhere near my computer. Cort Haus is on GMT, as is Krill. Mountain Sage is at GMT +1, I think. Can discuss possible chat times with UnO and let Cort and I know via PM what looks good for you? Then we can figure out our availability. -Arrian

	30-03-2004 23:38									#217
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Octavian, on the tech issue, keep in mind that CoD and Tabemono have contact with teams we don't, IIRC, and the possible cheaper tech cost from that needs to be taken into account, too.

	02-04-2004 10:34									#218
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quote: Arrian, http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php...amated350bc.JPG That's my report from the battlefield. Overall, our cats took out one hp off the elite merc that was there, as well as the city walls! We didn't attack with any of our units, but Monkey did take out one hp from some of our swords. Truth be told, I'm not very concerned about the possibility of a new fortress city. 6 mercs shouldn't be that bad. I'd also be happy to share all data necessary involving our tech capabilities. Right now, we're making 45 gpt at 9.0.1, with one scientist. Monotheism would be in 36. 7-10 PM Eastern works for me on most weekdays, I believe, for a chat time. Though I'm in the central time zone, I can stay up later, especially on weekends, to accomindate members in GMT timezones. I'll also contact UnO. Lastly, I'd like to 'withdraw' our safety desposit of 502g (wasn't it?). The danger of the barbs is gone, and there are some Courthouses I'd like to rush. ~Octavian X

	03-04-2004 08:28									#219
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quote: Octavian, Hey, thanks for the report! Not bad. Do you want us to attack with our horsemen, then? I think we probably should, and then you clean up whatever is left (unless we get very lucky, I don't think we will take the town). I will ask that your 502 gold be sent back. -Arrian

quote: Arrian, Let the battle begin! Let loose the mighty forces of CoD! The blood your enemies shall flow as Cake or Death triumphs victoriously! May the RNG gods shall smile happily upon your grand nation! Let Grog have his tank! Enough insprational talk - Yes, please attack. We'll clean up the rest - I'm hoping the military advisor is right when he says we have a stronger military than Monkey. Do we earn some interest on our little 502g desposit? ~Octavian X

	06-04-2004 10:25									#220
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This happened to come from Latin lovers.
Since I'm away for aobout three weeks now someone should take care of this.
I highly recommadn to be as cooperativ as we can be, we might need them in the future....

quote: Greetings, sorry for not communicate with you for a long time, It's because our comunications are completely broken, we are on anarchy! but our Gran Miembro guessed this revolt and ordered not to begin any investigation and stock gold some years ago. Now we are trying to organize our government at our cities, when this happens I think that we can use our gold to purchase technology and then start an interesting research. So we are completely open to a deal with Monty Python. Could you give us prices for the techs you can offer? Have you got any idea about common future research? Yours -Niessuh, Latin Lovers

	07-04-2004 04:33									#221
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I can whip up a response, though I'd also have to talk to Tabemono and CoD.

	07-04-2004 21:48									#222
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Octavian, I'll be happy to fill in on the diplomatic roster again.

	08-04-2004 08:38									#223
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Feel free to send something to LL, then.

From Cort Haus of CoD:

quote: Hi Octavian, Here are the results of our attack : No Elite NM is seen, - 1st is a Vet. Horse 1 nibbles 1HP and retreats. 2nd Vet appears. Horse 2 does nothing but die and promote NM to Elite Horse 3 inflicts 1 HP and dies. 3rd Vet appears Horse 4 inflicts 1 HP and retreats. 4th Vet appears Horse 5 does nothing and retreats. Horse 6 inflicts 3HP and dies. 5th Vet appears Horse 7 inflicts 2HP and dies. Elite 4/5 appears. Result : 4 CoD Horsemen lost, 8HP inflicted on the five defenders. Remaining defenders : 3/4, 4/5, 3/4, 1/4, 2/4, effective damage, 8/20 - not bad, and we lost 4/7 units, slightly under the odds. We should have softened it up nicely for Python. We send the 502g this turn, good luck in erasing Fort Siamang! Regards, Cort

	08-04-2004 21:36									#224
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To Neissuh:

quote: Neissuh, Congratulations from Python on your broken communications! We have had much success breaking communications inside our own government, and find it much more relaxing to simply run around contradicting and thumbing our noses at one another than have to face the trying decisions that communication brings. Our scienticians are currently assembling a list of techs we could possibly trade and their prices, but since I'm not talking to me right now, I can't give you any idea of what to expect. We are also open to discussion on cooperative research, but you can't have the patent on spam. All of this to say that we welcome the chance to trade with LL, but need a little time to assess our situation and see which direction would be most beneficial for you and us. Thank you and good luck with your anarchy. Solomwi

	09-04-2004 11:59									#225
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quote: Arrian, Just a few things I was thinking about in regard to the Monkey war. I'm holding the turn up a bit, as at least one of these decisions is very important. One big thing - Fort Siamang, as I had suspected, has a barracks. All the Monkey units have healed, so far as I can tell. There's a 5/5 Merc on top of the city. Hopefully, this won't be a problem. Second, as I'm sure your team noticed, Monkey's settler and six mercs built a new town one south of our stack's location - Holy Grill. Given our approximate understanding of the garrisons of each town - around six for both - on which should we concentrate our attack? Taking Fort Siamang would provide a nice foothold to allow our troops to heal after what could be a devastating attack. On the other hand, this leaves Monkey the option of filling Holy Grill to the brim with defenders - taking it would keep Fort Siamang cut off, possibly making our options more open. Third, but not so critical, is the possibility of involving Tabemono or LL in the war, as our partners in espionage. They get contact, and we pay for them to build an embassy and taking screenies for us. A lot of it depends on the potential cost, and the risk involved about letting them know about the war. Of course, when we take a city, that point might be moot... Thoughts? Fourth, what about that island horse town that Monkey has (Howler Monkey, iirc)? Having access to those horses would be important. Realistically speaking, can we take it? When would be the best time to launch an expedition, and who would launch it? Keep in mind I'm rather interested in getting it soon, as we need horses, and Monkey doesn't need any more toys to fight with. Lastly, an interesting (non-Monkey) development - LL has contacted us. They are interested in buying techs for cash. They didn't mention anything in particular, though... BTW, have a happy Easter. ~Octavian X

	10-04-2004 04:10									#226
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quote: Octavian, The Monkey units healed? My understanding of how the turn order works is wrong, then. I thought the units would heal on their turn, which happens after yours. Damn. This is getting ugly. I think we need more catapults. Do you think you can take Holy Grill, whilst still being able to protect your catapults (which will bombard, and therefore be left at FS2) from counterattack from Fort Siamang? I like the idea of pressing on and leaving FS be for now and pressing on into Monkey's core. We need to start hurting them. But I know your stack is kinda beat up and CoD's offensive power took a hit last turn. I think, given all of that, Python should take FS and heal up. In retrospect, I think it may have been a mistake for you guys to not have brought a combat settler along. As for the island, well, we have 2 galleys sailing around the southern end of the continent and they will be coming up the western side at some point. We will need to load them with troops and try and take that island. My worry, of course, is that Monkey will manage to block the coast and prevent a landing. But we shall see. LL has asked us for a price on Engineering (which we're close to discovering). I haven't yet responded. -Arrian

	14-04-2004 03:25									#227
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quote: Arrian, Runners report news of the Battle of Fort Siamang! code: Bombing Results -1 hp from 5/5 Merc 4/4 horse retreats-no damage to 5/5 merc 4/4 horse retreats-5/5 merc loses 3hp 5/5 horse destroyed-4/4 merc loses 2hp 3/4 horse destoryed-4/4 merc loses 2hp 3/4 horse destroyed-4/4 merc loses 2hp 1/4 horse destroyed-4/5 merc takes no damage 4/4 sword destroyed-4/5 merc loses 2hp 4/4 sword not damaged-3/3 merc destroyed 4/4 sword destroyed-3/3 merc loses 1hp 4/4 sword loses 1hp-2/4 merc destroyed 4/4 sword loses 2hp-2/3 merc destroyed 4/4 sword loses 1hp-2/4 merc destroyed 4/4 sword not damaged-2/4 merc destroyed 3/4 sword loses 2hp,-2/4 merc destroyed promotes to elite 4/4 sword not damaged-2/5 merc destroyed promotes to elite 3/4 merc loses 1hp-2/5 merc destroyed Pytonia wins the battle of Fort Siamang! The city is taken! Casualty report: We lost five horses, and two swords. Monkey lost 8 N. Mercenaries. That's what happened. We have the city under our control. Next turn, I plan on rushing a barracks and withdrawing all our forces into Fort Siamang (renamed Siege Perilous - the name of Sir Lancelot's caste in the Arthur mythos). There, we'll heal for about two turns (one turn for barrack completion, one for healing). We'll continue to bombard Holy Grill during that period. Octavian

quote: Good news! Congratulations on your victory. -Arrian

	23-04-2004 10:03									#228
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Arrian,

DaveMcW,chief C.O.WAR.D. member and resident expert military strategist has posted the following plan:

quote: Next turn we should move all our healthy units 2 and build a road. Leave a spearman on the road they can't pillage it without a fight. If we have more reinforcements arriving they can defend Siege Perilous, otherwise we need to leave a couple units behind to do that. Then we move our army 2,1 to the tile between Holy Grill and Orangutan. Once again they have to split their forces, and we will capture Holy Grill. After Holy Grill, I think the best plan is to pillage our way to Primate Central and attack any city that gets isolated. Divide and conquer!

This is our current plan of attack. Thoughts?

~Octavian X

	24-04-2004 06:56									#229
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From Arrian:

quote: I don't have a map in front of me, but it sounds ok. Does Dave have any thoughts on what CoD's troops should do? IIRC, the main stack is healing at Holy Grill 6-9. I'm thinking they should just march southward, trying to place themselves in position to hit multiple targets at once (like Dave is trying to do with your troops), so Monkey has to spread out a bit. FYI - our galleys have made the turn and are now sailing northward up Monkey's west coast. When they get to our war road, we can load 'em with 4 horsemen and go after that island town. -Arrian

	29-04-2004 07:25									#230
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quote: Octavian, FYI - our galleys, sailing northward along Monkey's west coast, encountered and sunk a Monkey galley, without losing a hitpoint. In addition, we discovered Engineering. We sent it to you, and to Tabemono, per our deal. They should send Feudalism back, which we are allowed to pass on to you. One thing I've totally forgotten is this: did we ever actually work out a deal for Engineering? If not, I think the best thing would be for you to send us gold equivalent to 1/2 our research costs. The only wrinkle there is that I haven't been counting beakers, and I know Engineering was devalued due to other civs already having it. We've shut off research for now, pending hearing from Tabemono about how they want to proceed. I've sent them CoD's research power (149 beakers/turn at 90% science) so they can judge which team will be the fastest researcher. Let me know if I erred in not considering you guys - I guessed you haven't built any libraries. Let me know if I'm mistaken, and if you can beat that mark. The fastest team should research, and the others should fund it. Good luck on your march south... I see Monkey has been pinging away with their catapults. Our stack should be healed up next turn, and reinforcements continue to flow in. Given what we learned (much to my chagrin) in the last attack, we know that our forces cannot be used to "soften" Monkey's defenses in preparation for your main assault. So I'm not actually sure what to do with them next turn. Anyway, in a few turns we will load up 4 horsies and go after that island town of theirs, and maybe actually be useful for once! Hmm... speaking of that, maybe I could rush a 3rd galley out of Cow River. Then I could bring 5 horsies & a spear, and make sure of it. After that, it opens the possibility of an end-around in force. -Arrian

	29-04-2004 08:56									#231
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quote: Arrian, Great news with the ship. May your navy sail to victory! And, good news on Feudalism. Not much use to us, but it's just nice to have. I do want to get something worked out for our tech purchase plan. I don't have a save in front of me, so I can't name specific science prices. Our military is costing us, though, so that's a factor. We have 893g, making 44gpt. I don't have any beaker numbers on me. Your guess on our library status is right, though. Our core cities are all spitting out units every two turns (with one worker factory and one settler factory), occupying all of our first and second rings. Our third ring border cities are all building courthouses, and some will pursue libraries when those are done. Two cities on our third ring are producing libraries right now. Let me add we're keen on getting Invention. We need longbows! On the island invasion - can you guys get a harbor/road system up and running soon as well? We'd like access to that second source of horses for the war effort as well. I can't remember if any sea blocks the way. And, now that I think about it, we could fund a harbor for our continent to connect the city, since those connections will run accross borders. One last thing - a peak at the F4 screen revealed we had contact with SS and MAST. I need to contact them - any thoughts? ~Octavian X

	29-04-2004 19:34									#232
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quote: Octavian, Yeah, we want Invention too. I'm waiting to hear back from Tabemono about what they're doing. Basically, either they research it and we help fund that, or CoD researches and Python & Tabemono fund it. I'll get back to you about the cost of Engineering. We've still got a decent cash reserve, so the issue is not yet all that pressing. I do think there is a coastal water connection to the island horses, but until we take or destroy the Monkey city on their west coast, it might be in Monkey territory (which would block a trade route). But I too can't recall off hand. Something to think about, surely. I don't know what to tell you w/regard to SS and MAST. We have contact with them, and IIRC, I've exchanged brief PMs with MAST, and had zero contact with SS. That last bit needs to change. Say "hi" and see if you can figure out what they're researching. I think SS has Monotheism, so it's probably a good idea to ask them if they've any tech for sale. -Arrian

	01-05-2004 23:23									#233
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To HarryH of Sunshine:

quote: Greetings! The people of Camelot send our warmest, most spam-filled hello to the people of Sunshinia. We recently discovered the Sunshine people on our contact list, and assume it was the activity of the Latin Lovers of Tabemono that brought our messengers in contact with yours. We hope to form a good, peaceful relationship. We've lots to speak about, I'm sure, about the relationship between both our humble nations. Here's to a future of peace, and to an end to the dead parrot crisis! ~Octavian X Supreme Prime Minister for Life, Useless Fat Guy, etc., etc., The Republic of the Castle of Loimbard

	01-05-2004 23:28									#234
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To MAST:

quote: Greetings, OPD: We warmly greet the followers of Mohammed al-Sahaf. We bear great respect for the Iraqi government and it's glourious Minister of Information, and as such send gifts of tanks that are not currently marching into your capital and taking it over. The people of the Castle of Loimbard are kind, usually peaceful folks (though when silly English knights attack, we do repsond with full taunting force). I hope that our great lands may coexist peacefully from now until the end. I'm sure there's much to discuss about tech trades and such, so please feel free to contact me as necessary. Until then, ~Octavian X Supreme Prime Minister for Life, Minister of Very Silly and Often Useless Information, All Around Useless Fat Guy, The Republic of the Castle of Loimbard

	03-05-2004 07:32									#235
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From Sunshine:

quote: It was the great explorers of Tabemono that sent us word of your civilization. We look forward to the opportunity to bring happiness to your part of the world and build a relationship based on cooperation between our peoples. Togas is our Minister of Friendly Relations. He will be doing most of the contact with you. -- HarryH Leader of the Sunshine people.

	03-05-2004 08:25									#236
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Oh no! Not Togas! As a Roleplay member, I must warn our diplomats - beware his silver tongue!

	03-05-2004 12:19									#237
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Or his toga ... don't like that brand...

	05-05-2004 08:45									#238
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quote: Octavian X, We can't see your stack this turn - is there anything you can suggest we could do with our stack this turn that would help? Regards, Cort.

	06-05-2004 09:12									#239
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quote: Holy Grill has been disbanded, and I expect they moved the contents south to protect Orangutang. Our stack is now at SiegePerilous3, heading west to meet with 3 boats for an attack on the island. Alternatively, we could approach Gorilla to draw forces away from your stack.

	11-05-2004 09:00									#240
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quote: Greetings! Has been a long time since we last spoke with your civ. Congratulations for the consolidatium of your growing empire. Do you have Feudalism? we are interested on purchase it. If you want/could, our treasury is 232gold and payment per turn is possible. Just say a (interesting) number :-) We are also open on a stable future tech cooperation. If you have some plan.... Niessuh, Latin Lovers