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Jul 2002
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Everything you want to know about GCA Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Everything you want to know about GCA is here !

Obviously it's not, but I think it's absolutely necessary to gather every piece of information available about GCA before we go to War with them.

1. Basic Information
Gamecatcher.net
http://www.gamecatcher.net
savegames sent to: GCteam@gamecatcher.net
Civilization: India
Civilization Name: Gamecatcher Alliance (GCA)
Colour: Black
Civ Traits: Commercial, Religious
Starting Techs: Alphabet, Ceremonial Burial
Unique Unit: War Elephant (4/3/2, 70 shields, no resource needed, replaces Knight)
Who's in their Team ?
Http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...169#post1840169
Aeson : Lucky is a very good player. One of the best from the GOTM community. He's a nice guy, and seems to play mainly for the fun of it.

2. Non-Aggresssion Agreements etc
Mar 29 - Signed Non-Aggression Pact with GCA, 30 Turns.
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...546#post1865546
May 23 - Renewed Non-Aggression Pact with GCA, 30 Turns
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...324#post2028324
Jul 17 - Non-Aggression Agreement signed. No travel within 1 tile of either border. Allow Princess to travel thru their waters. Ends on Turn 130.

3. Our Dealings with GCA
GCA Border spotted. And the trouble that CDG took to avoid us from contacting GCA.
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...495#post1857495
Mar 19 - Turn 26 2750BC - Made Ingame contact with GCA. WhiteBandit and History Buff appointed as ambassadors for Apolyton & GCA respectively.
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=81768
Http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...090#post1855090
Apr 8 - Warrior BigFree held "hostage" between GCA and CDG
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...672#post1893672

Jun 13 - Apolyton acted as mediator to CFC/GCA
Http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...617#post2086617
Http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Ma...CFC-GCA-ACS.txt
Http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...068#post2098068 (scroll down for Part II and III)
Jun 13 - Negotation broke down. GCA declared war on CFC
Http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...596#post2094596
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...840#post2097840
3 way Alliance against GCA ?
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...356#post2085356

Jun 28 - Turn 76 1125BC - Exchanged World Map with GCA

Jul 2 - Turn 77 1100BC - CDG declared war on GCA
Http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...672#post2144672
Bitter Letter from GCA to CDG - on their alliance to defeat CFC/Poly
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...263#post2146263
GCA is winning against CDG, what should Apolyton do ?
Http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...043#post2185043
GCA Great Leader discussion
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...669#post2177669
Jul 20 - Turn 91 750BC - GCA established embassy with Apolyton
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=92645

Aug 27 - Border Agreement signed
Http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...073#post2288073
Sep 2 - Turning up the heat
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...683#post2303683


4. Technology Exchanges
Apr 15 - GCA to give Apolyton Writing in exchange for Warrior Code & the Wheel
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...840#post1913840
May 13 - GCA to give Mysticism and Polytheism in exchange for HRB and Map Making
Http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...486#post1991486
Discussion on giving GCA Mapmaking
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...583#post2263583

Actual Trades :
May 3 - Turn 48 1870BC- Received Writing from GCA.
Jul 3 - Turn 78 1075BC - Received Mysticism from GCA for Horseback Riding
Jul 28 - Turn 98 630BC - Received Polytheism from GCA for CoL, Mathematics

5. Military Discussion
Luck of the RPG ? Discussion with Lucky.
Http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...107#post2249107
Intelligence from CFC on GCA
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...497#post2290497
CFC attacking units on a mountain ?
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...336#post2261336

Polyton Preparing for War with GCA
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...744#post2241744
Gathering Intelligence on GCA
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...525#post2275525

Declaration of War Letter (Draft)
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...900#post2332900

6. Miscellaneous
Look at BigFree's drawing of our Landmass
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...479#post1857479

P.S. I have edited this thread several times, to fix links, designs etc.

Last edited by rush on 20-09-2003 at 12:44

BigFurryMonster is offline BigFurryMonster
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Re: Everything you want to know about GCA Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

I took the liberty of adding your excellent work to the Area X thread ("Civ specific analysis").

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Wow.... great work, Rush! Nice to have all the info in one place!

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More demographics information to come ....... it's great to finally install PTW and access the saved files !

1. GCA Total Land Area : 18100 Squares Miles (or 181 map squares)

Comparing to Apolyton (12800 Sq Miles), they are 41% bigger than us.
The composition is as follow :
Mountain 10 map sq, Hill 14 Map sq, Forest 30 Map sq, Jungle 7 Map sq, Grassland 38 Map sq, Shielded Grassland 17 Map sq, Plain 12 Map sq, Desert 7 Map sq, Coast 38 Map sq, Sea 8 Map sq.
Another way looking at it is - Out of the 181 Map sq, 46 Map sq is made up of Ocean & Sea, 24 Map sq is West of BoP, and the rest 111 is to the East of BoP.

2. Resources

They have a total of 1 Dye, 1 Wheat, 3 Irons, 1 Horse, 1 Fur, 1 Silk and 1 Cattle. None of them are directly underneath the City. Because updated roads are not shown, we are not sure how many of them are connected.

3. Population

Just counting the population size of their 10 Cities, total population is 31 compared to 46 for Apolyton.

4. Cities

Catcher in the Rye - has City Walls, sitting on Grassland, Pop 4, has culture, Iron & Wheat nearby
Incredible Dancing Girl - sitting on Grassland, Pop 1, has Culture, Dye nearby
Random Outpost - sitting on Plain, Pop 2, no Culture

Algalord - sitting on Plain, has City Walls, Pop 3, has culture
Server Fire - sitting on Grassland, Pop 3, no Culture
Catchopolis - Capital, sitting on a hill, Pop 6, has culture, Horse nearby
Dun Na Anarchy - sitting on Grassland, Pop 4, has culture, Iron and Silk nearby

BoP - sitting on Grassland, Pop 5, has Culture, Furs nearby
Port Blacksand - sitting on Grassland, Pop 2, no Culture
Sodapolis - sitting on Grassland, Pop 1, no Culture, Iron nearby

Note : No culture means city culture has not expanded.
Note 2 : I hope to do more analysis looking at GCA cities for the last 30 turns. But this will take time.

That's all for now folks.
If any of you have any request on info gathering for GCA, pls feel free to ask. I probably have a bit of time this weekend because of Typhoon #15 coming on shore.

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GCA City Status - from Turn 77 Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

We acquired GCA map on Turn 77, so i was able to open up the save files and compile the following :

Catcher in the Rye (formerly known as Elucidium - CDG)
Turn 93 - captured city from CDG. Walls included.
Turn 99 - Population increase to 2
Turn 103 - Population reduced to 1. Rushed a temple.
Turn 105 - Population increased to 2
Turn 108 - Culture expanded (note : temple gives 2 culture pts per turn, that's why i believed a temple was rushed in turn 103)
Turn 110 - Population increased to 3
Turn 117 - Population increased to 4

Incredible Dancing Girl (formerly known as Zarigueya - CDG)
Turn 90 - captured city from CDG. Walls included.
Turn 108 - Culture expanded. same time as Catcher in the Rye. Likely to have built a temple too on Turn 103.
Turn 113 - Population increased to 2
Turn 114 - Population reduced to 1. Uncleared as to what they built or rushed. Could be a worker. Or could be used to rush a Barrack or something.

Random Outpost (formerly known as OurGoatsaretrainedtokill - CDG)
Turn 86 - Captured from CDG
Turn 102 - Population increased to 2

Algalord
Turn 81 - Culture expanded (to 100) so their temple was built very long ago
Turn 94 - Population increased to 4
Turn 105 - Population increased to 5
Turn 115 - Population reduced to 3. Likely to have built a settler. No new city found yet.

Server Fire
Turn 91 - Built from the settler from Dun na Anarchy
Turn 101 - Population increased to 2
Turn 111 - Population increased to 3

Catchopolis
Turn 84 - Population increased to 5
Turn 101 - Population increased to 6

Dun na Arnachy
Turn 81 - Population increased to 3
Turn 85 - Population increased to 4
Turn 88 - Population reduced to 2. Built settler. Settler found Server Fire.
Turn 90 - Population increased to 3
Turn 95 - Population increased to 4
Turn 99 - Culture expanded (10). Could have built a temple on Turn 94.
Turn 100 - Population increased to 5
Turn 101 - Population reduced to 3. Built settler. Settler found Port Blacksand.
Turn 105 - Population increased to 4
Turn 107 - Population reduced to 2. Built settler. Settler found Sodapopolis.
Turn 110 - Population increased to 3
Turn 115 - Population increased to 4

Balance of Power
Turn 92 - Population increased to 5
Turn 101 - Culture expanded (100). Must have built temple very long ago.

Port Blacksand
Turn 105 - built from settler from Dun Na Anarchy
Turn 115 - Population increased to 2

Sodapopolis
Turn 111 - built from settler from Dun Na Anarchy

BigFurryMonster is offline BigFurryMonster
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

See? A Rush with PTW is way better than a Rush without.

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Holy ****!!!! Excellent work Rush!

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