31-08-2005 21:05									#1
	the voice of planet Tired of ads?

i was thinking,we need a collection of posts akin to the great library threads of civ2. that way instad of asking stupid questions about echelon mirrors people can just check the thread under E. of course,this would require catolauging every usefull post for smac,ever a variety of other projects have been started,like the planetary datalinks and various other collections based on some research SP.

since MY collection thing will be the end all and do all of collection threads(yeah right) i decided upon the voice of planet as a name completion of that allows transcend victory... just like this will represent a full culmination of smac efforts. and careful study of can produce victory yadayada

of course,id be insane to try this by myself(correction;more insane) so if the other denizens of the ac ghs forum are favourably inclined, i think this would be way cool to have done. of course as the proponent of this i suppose i would have the job of being chief transcendist

and since projects that are referenced to as ''we'' are more likely to succeed than ones with ''i'' i propose this be a community effort with credit going to all participants



EDIT: i was looking at the GL thread. instead of catolouging every thread,we just need to get the best thread-for example,on crawlers,just need someone to submit the best thread\data on it. and i mean more updated than that page at cgn. this makes the project alot more possible

Last edited by Cataphract887 on 31-08-2005 at 21:48

	31-08-2005 21:20									#2
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It is a great and pretty ambitious idea. But do you realise the magnitude of the work required to accomplish it? There are about 3500-4000 SMAC threads that would need to be examined - this project would need cooperation of more than several members.

I am interested, although I cannot currently offer much help due to sheer amount of SMAC projects I am currently doing.

Oh, and I don't like the name. I propose The Network Backbone/Network Node for it.

	31-08-2005 21:23									#3
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i know. it would be very very difficult. thats why i wanted some people that could support before even trying to attempt it. i was estimating it at 10000+ myself. this wouldnt be something to undertake litely

well id prefer network backbone,but i though it was taken by someone


edit; and im wondering if to many of the l33t players are to busy to support- i suspect everyone has some little project cooking somewhere.id like to see how many of the community would be willing to help.

	31-08-2005 22:15									#4
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If I remember correctly, MariOne once posted an impressive collection of thread-ids for various topics. I tried to find it with an archive-search, but there were no results even when I just searched for posts by MariOne. Am I doing something wrong or is there a problem with the archive?

	31-08-2005 22:25									#5
	Tired of ads?

I've never been able to find anything in the archives with the search function.

	31-08-2005 23:07									#6
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Maybe go prod MarkG about archive searches?

I think the effort needed for this project would be wasted because everyone who would want to read such a thing would have involved in making it.

Instead, for the few new players appearing I think it would be more beneficial to have a quick-start guide with suggestions regarding terraforming, introduction to pop-booming/ICS/energy parks, which secret projects the game revolves around, how the factions play and maybe some other topics.

Should a SMAC sequel/Civ4 remake appear I would be ready to revise this opinion.

	31-08-2005 23:14									#7
	Tired of ads?

well its not a im-making-it-thread,its a testing the waters and seeing what everybody thinks thread.and yes you ave a good point,everyone that who would read it had built it.

the search function is totaly broken imho. dosnt civfanatics just have google search it instead of its own function.

if someone would just update the acedemy section at cgn that would do fine for a beginers guide

	01-09-2005 00:00									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Senethro Instead, for the few new players appearing I think it would be more beneficial to have a quick-start guide with suggestions regarding terraforming, introduction to pop-booming/ICS/energy parks, which secret projects the game revolves around, how the factions play and maybe some other topics.

Sounds like your talking about the SMAC Academy over @ CGN......


D

	01-09-2005 00:42									#9
	Suffering from ads?

I'd prefer the Plantary Datalinks myself...

I'd happily contribute whatever I can for anyone collecting data on Chairman Yang and the Human Hive.

	01-09-2005 02:05									#10
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darsnan,thats woefully un updated and dosnt have things like beling to IA and etc

who am i kidding, dont need an SP. im just kicking back here,taking a sip and watching the sun stream in...summer now if only i could actually get my hands on the sav for one of the many pbems im in,everything would be perfect

	01-09-2005 07:02									#11
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In short, you're bored.

	01-09-2005 11:41									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Senethro Maybe go prod MarkG about archive searches?

Good luck with that

I'll try to dig out the MariOne thread.

	01-09-2005 12:02									#13
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Franky -> PDL is already taken by Illuminatus as the official SMAC fiction SP.

So, let it be Network Backbone!

I go for the first option and I know how to do it and it's not so hard as you've been thinking.

It should consist of following steps:

1.Listing of thread thread IDs and titles in this forum in a XSL (excel) spreadsheet or CSV file ofr easy viewing - I will examine the Poly's HTML code, perhaps there's something common to all threads, so I can write a script for the task. Hey, I already know what exactly!
You can consider this point done soon after I start working on it (Somewhere next week)!
Result:

code:

ID	Title	
------------------------------
...	...
138071	the voice of planet 
...	...
xxxxxx	roads are useless	
...	...
------------------------------

code:

ID	Title			Subject		Depth
--------------------------------------------------------
...	...
138071	the voice of planet 	-		-
...	...
xxxxxx	roads are useless	roads		8
...	...
--------------------------------------------------------

*please note that I put "-" in the subject for this thread to mark it's unusable as source..
**Depth scaling in 0-9 scale

3.Weighing the depths of discussions and going thru the most deep and expansive ones, reading it more thorouhly and again adding/distracting from the subject field as well as optionally adding remark.

code:

ID	Title			Subject		Depth		Remark
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
...	...
138071	the voice of planet 	-		-		the reason I do this
...	...
xxxxxx	roads are useless	roads		7		lotsa bashing 
...	...
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

	02-09-2005 04:38									#14
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A voice of planet...well, I guess I'll say have fun...

I'm working on my own website, and, having school and much more productive things to do in my life, haven't gotten very far...most of the work is still typed in MS word and not even on the website yet...

The idea is great, but I guess I'd say don't overwork yourself...do small pieces at a time...

	02-09-2005 05:33									#15
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woah woah woah your getting to serious there bin

quote: In short, you're bored.

something like that

	02-09-2005 12:11									#16
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I went through the old threads about a year ago and compiled a list of threads I thought were interesting. If you're interested, I can post it or PM it when I get home.

	02-09-2005 12:22									#17
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Last edited by Cataphract887 on 03-09-2005 at 22:31

	02-09-2005 13:20									#18
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Yes, post please MM.

	02-09-2005 20:03									#19
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I've posted this once before, so you might have seen this already:


Choppers:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=6702
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7932
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7727
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=26757
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=39916 (protecting)
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=89498 (Air defence)

Free market:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7183
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7421
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7725
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7917
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=23362
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=23649
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=29099
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=79144
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=88651
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=92791

Zakharov, Velociryx:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7247

How to control drones:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7244

Defence through forestation:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7241

Cool MP stories:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7240
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=81814 (Flubber)

Specialist cities:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7238
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7508
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7927 (buster)
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=60465
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=89640 (limit)

Factions:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=31039

Pirates:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=29825

Morgan:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=29905

Domai:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7271
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7262
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=21376
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=25933
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=33048

Early terraforming:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7294

GA pop booming:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7318

War:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7316
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=21984
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=45437

SE choices:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7303
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=20912

The best faction:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7357

Pop-booming, why:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7365
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=67509

What SPs to get early:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7401

Crawlers:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7428
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7430
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7785
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=19930
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=29329

Playing defensively:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7414

Phases of the game:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7413

Building military:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7447

Clean reactors:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7470

Green - broken society:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7463

Captured bases:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7502

Energy allocation:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7555

Upgrade costs:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7610

Farm + condenser & pod booming:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7645

Favorite units:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7658
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=19694
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=22948

Base spacing:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7675
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=73350

Terraforming:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7667
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7662 (energy park)
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7875
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=20968 (forests)

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=25042 (WP)
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=25420
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7363 (raise land)
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=28148
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=29871 (bonus resources)

Spore Launchers:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7659

Beginning game techs:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7705

Demo+Green+Wealth:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7780

Efficiency + expansion:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7866

Other ways to climb the tech tree:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7910

Base spacing:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7912

Builder strategies:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7934

Planetary Transit System:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=19643

Trained Shells:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=19762

University, +2 research:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=19276

Talents:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7279
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=23200

Fringe Bases:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=22144

Ships:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7728

Rover rushes:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=22187

Comparison game:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=22125

Fast transcend:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=27223

Armored probes:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=27445

Synergy, Vel:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=22276

Secret Projects:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=27619

Builder challenge - vel zsozso:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7897

Micromanaging:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=31991

Base spacing:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=29957
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=40967
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=41394
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=54872 (good!)

Upgrading units:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=37926 (Good!)

Blind research, selecting techs:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7558

Switching from IP to PBEM:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=&threadid=7898

Rising sea levels:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=40200

Civ 3 sucks:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=47984

Nerve stapling:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=53266

Building formers:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=59884

Self-destruct:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=63284

Ascetic Virtues:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=68214

Sikander's Builder Game:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=70902

Fast transcend:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=74735 (zsozso)
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=77308 (zsozso)
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=73935

Hendrik's Builder Game:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=74982
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=75614 (Hendrik's Bane)

Efficiency drone formula:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=76190

Favourite faction:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=20230 (Sik&Hendrik page4)

Golden age, odd numbered bases:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=82892
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=94409

Combat, stacking:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=82418

Gaians:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=87828
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=92250
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=93935

Most useful strategies:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=63738

SMAC 5.0:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=84608

Early game secret projects:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=94901

	02-09-2005 21:13									#20
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woah. that could come in handy after after all.

	03-09-2005 04:02									#21
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I'm quite certain that Minute Mirage's compilation is the one I had attributed to MariOne earlier, so there is no need for Illuminatus to look any further. Please accept my apologies for the mistake. (It must have been the "M".) Now, I think I'm going to read a few of those threads and I suspect that afterwards I'll be playing SMAC. Well, it's only 1am yet. ;-)

	05-09-2005 06:19									#22
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Minute Mirages' Collection should be topped and merged with work Jamski compiled on the same topic.

	05-09-2005 13:18									#23
	Put an end to popups!

Where is Jamski's work btw?

	05-09-2005 16:52									#24
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Unrelated interesting thread by Jamski

Thread in which he proposed the guide
The guide itself

	12-09-2005 11:21									#25
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This calls for division of work. As in "you get to classify threads one hundred to one hundred and then" and so.

I'm just curious, can those threads be replied? If I manage to find something worthy enough to justify bouncing, that is.

	13-09-2005 06:16									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Leon Trotsky I'm just curious, can those threads be replied? If I manage to find something worthy enough to justify bouncing, that is.

Archived threads are locked, so you can't reply or otherwise bump them. Anything in the current (non-archived) forum is open for replies (unless a mod has locked it).

	15-09-2005 15:40									#27
	Increase Your PM Length

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...=future+society

Explanation on the Golden Age Pop Boom bug.